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Federal government spends millions on hoop houses
AP/Beaumont Enterprise ^ | 1/17/11 | Steve Karnowski

Posted on 01/17/2011 5:00:30 AM PST by markomalley

The federal government has spent millions of dollars to help farmers nationwide buy greenhouse-like structures called high tunnels that can add valuable weeks and even months to their growing seasons by protecting produce from chilly temperatures.

About $13 million has gone to more than 2,400 farmers in 43 states to help pay for the low-tech tunnels that look like a cross between Quonset huts and conventional greenhouses. The structures, also known as hoop houses, have been particularly beneficial in the north, where they allow farmers to plant as much as four weeks early and keep growing later in the fall.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture touts the tunnels as environmentally friendly and a way to help meet the demand for local and sustainable produce. Experts say high tunnels employ efficient drip irrigation systems and reduce pest problems, diseases and fertilizer costs.

(Excerpt) Read more at beaumontenterprise.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agriculture; farming; nationaldefense; nationalinterest
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Sounds like a good idea....

....for an investment by the farmers, not for government pork.

1 posted on 01/17/2011 5:00:31 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Okay...they just had to play the “environmentally friendly” card. Just more PC talk.

Dam* it.


2 posted on 01/17/2011 5:07:27 AM PST by Puckster
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To: Puckster

Maybe I can get one for my Townhouse’s 2nd story deck.....Habeneros, herbs...etc.

But seriously.....more food production to keep food costs down....not bad.

If they can couple a passive solar storage in the mix...even longer and earlier for some plant foods.


3 posted on 01/17/2011 5:10:51 AM PST by Puckster
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To: markomalley

Yet people bitch at $3.00 for a head of lettuce.


4 posted on 01/17/2011 5:11:31 AM PST by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: Puckster

Okay, now I’m talking to myself.


5 posted on 01/17/2011 5:12:30 AM PST by Puckster
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To: markomalley

If we are going to spend federal dollars on anything but defense, this seems reasonable. It is better than the stupid corn ethanol (burn your food) program and paying farmers not to farm.

We are going to have a food crises at some point, so investment like this might reduce that damage.

It is a matter of national security.


6 posted on 01/17/2011 5:12:34 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: Puckster
If they can couple a passive solar storage in the mix...even longer and earlier for some plant foods.

That's what GREENHOUSES are!..................

7 posted on 01/17/2011 5:12:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Red Badger

New name, new GOV money!


8 posted on 01/17/2011 5:15:08 AM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: markomalley

A) These sort of structures are a great idea.

B) If farmers want these sort of structures they should BUY THEM THEMSELVES on the open market at prevailing rates.

Farm subsidy is just another form of marxist income redistribution.


9 posted on 01/17/2011 5:17:16 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Red Badger

“That’s what GREENHOUSES are!..................”

Yes...but I’m talking about a heat storage system collected during the day and used at night....greenhouses do this by themselves to less extent, but earlier and later can be enhanced with a heat storage system....perferably passive.

The article doesn’t make mention of this.


10 posted on 01/17/2011 5:19:42 AM PST by Puckster
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Not much sun to store in the winter.
Geothermal would be much better and works around the clock 24/7/365.................


11 posted on 01/17/2011 5:21:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“BUY THEM THEMSELVES”

Can’t disagree with you on this.

The greenhouses are still a good idea....but yes, invest in themselves they should.


12 posted on 01/17/2011 5:22:11 AM PST by Puckster
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To: Delta 21

“Yet people bitch at $3.00 for a head of lettuce.”

No, I laugh and walk on by.


13 posted on 01/17/2011 5:24:22 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: Red Badger

“Not much sun to store in the winter.
Geothermal would be much better and works around the clock 24/7/365.................”

Depends on the latitude.

I’m not suggesting, other than geothermal, that my suggestion is good through the whole winter. Just later in the fall and earlier in the spring.

My dad had a little green house (not the hoop) that allowed him to have some rather impressive tomato plants ready by the end of May in Minnesota (Brainerd). He had grow lamps and a heater that, along with a fanned duct that drew heat from high to low, made for stable moister and temperatures.

If the hoops had a source of geothermal/solar, were ever this makes sense, and low powered fans to draw risen air back down to the ground level, a lot less energy is needed.


14 posted on 01/17/2011 5:29:24 AM PST by Puckster
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To: markomalley

More federal debt spending.

Federal debt: $14,040,000,000,000.00

That’s $14.04 Trillion

And the spending rolls on.

I am convinced that there are those in government who are currently deliberately attempting to bankrupt America and ruin the private sector free market Capitalist economy.

Who is it that takes the oath to defend this nation and it’s Constitution from both foreign enemies and domestic enemies?

What must Leftists do before they are considered this nation’s domestic enemies?

Succeed?


15 posted on 01/17/2011 5:29:56 AM PST by reaganator
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To: Puckster
The greenhouses are still a good idea....but yes, invest in themselves they should.

Thank you, Yoda.

16 posted on 01/17/2011 5:36:37 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: Puckster
He had grow lamps and a heater that, along with a fanned duct that drew heat from high to low, made for stable moister and temperatures.

From what I've heard about 5% of the folks up in British Columbia have similar setups in their basements....

17 posted on 01/17/2011 5:36:37 AM PST by ninonitti
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To: reaganator

Spending other peoples money seems to be as addictive as heroin and cigarettes.


18 posted on 01/17/2011 5:38:42 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: Puckster

You really wouldn’t need full geothermal to keep a constant temp.
At a certain depth, 5-10 feet, the temp of the earth remains fairly constant. A network of pipes/ducts, laid out like a radiator, buried beneath the fields could draw heat from the earth to the greenhouses with air circulated thru them. Then when the planting season starts, the fields would be planted with the young plants that were in the greenhouses................


19 posted on 01/17/2011 5:40:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: markomalley
The structures, also known as hoop houses, have been particularly beneficial in the north, where they allow farmers to plant as much as four weeks early and keep growing later in the fall.

I guess that Global Warming thing isn't happening fast enough so they need to artificially induce said warming.

20 posted on 01/17/2011 5:47:35 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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