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Doctors open breathing hole in Giffords' throat
Reuters ^ | 01/16/2011 | Brad Poole

Posted on 01/16/2011 10:30:14 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan

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To: Just mythoughts
It's similar to what happened with Tim Johnson in South Dakota after his brain aneurysm.

South Dakota was willing to go without a Senator for 9 months while Johnson recovered, rather than let the seat turn over to a Republican.

-PJ

41 posted on 01/16/2011 11:19:14 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Palladin
Yes, I fear she is going to be like James Brady, with a functioning body and a half-functioning brain.

This is my fear as well. While I pray she comes through this whole, I also fear for the damage she will do to our country.

42 posted on 01/16/2011 11:20:58 AM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Carley
Her brain may not be able to send the signal to breathe, to swallow, to manage nutrition.

This might veer into Schiavo territory down the road, if she doesn't improve.

43 posted on 01/16/2011 11:22:27 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I am sorry for the Giffords family and the other victims of the shooting. The little girl broke my heart. But a 27 year old cop was shot in cold blood in New Jersey the other day, a border guard was murdered last month and murders occur almost every day. I cannot dredge up more feeling for Giffords than I feel for all these others just because she is a congresscritter. I don’t consider that that makes me heartless. In fact, the demands of the demonRATs that we should not, now, vote on repealing BOcare, or any of the other things the new congress is set to do is specious and self serving.

As to Giffords injuries...as hard as this sounds, the people need to get set for a special election. Barring some fantastic miracle (which is not beyond God’s abilities), she is not going back to congress. I am a registered respiratory therapist, retired after 32 years on the job. The nature of her wound cannot be pushed aside by a desire to see her back at the capitol with her seat safe from a special election where a rep might win. She was hyperventilated as a matter of course to help keep her brain swelling down and after 24 hours they began to wean her off the vent. One can definately be on a ventilator and still be breathing on one’s own. The trach and the feeding tube are necessary to facilitate long term care, and that is what I see happening here. Brain damage very often leads to an unstable airway and aspiration is always a possibility. She may, in time, be even more functional than James Brady. Maybe not.


44 posted on 01/16/2011 11:23:40 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: mojitojoe

I think so. The mods may disagree. Removing Giffords from the ventilator is significant progress.


45 posted on 01/16/2011 11:24:42 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

>>>Nah, see post #31.

It’s likely the trach was done very early on, and they’re beginning the process to wean her off it.


46 posted on 01/16/2011 11:25:21 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

She is improving. Nothing about this is bad news. Taking her of the ventilator is good.


47 posted on 01/16/2011 11:27:38 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yes, I saw your post 31 after I’d posted. I’m just wondering, should she not improve beyond a certain point, what will happen, and if the media would be as eager to give up on her as they were on Terry Schiavo. But it probably won’t come to that.


48 posted on 01/16/2011 11:30:50 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: 13Sisters76

Giffords was intubated not “hyperventilated.”


49 posted on 01/16/2011 11:31:31 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’ve spent 6 years as a critical care nurse, primarily in surgical/trauma (but some cardiac, neuro, and most recently transplant). Knowing what I’ve seen, I’m attending by my earlier post that a trach at this stage dosent correlate with what we are being told about her condition.


50 posted on 01/16/2011 11:35:04 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Do you walk to work? Or take a lunch...

She HAD to be intubated to be ON a ventilator AND be hyperventilated AND she was originally in a medically induced coma. Hyperventilating a head trauma is SOP- what were you, a housekeeper?

Stop showing your a$$.


51 posted on 01/16/2011 11:41:18 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Then you know that the risk of pneumonia in immobile patients is fairly high, especially in the ICU. They need the trach to suction her to prevent pneumonia.


52 posted on 01/16/2011 11:46:36 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I hope she recovers ASAP. My first reaction (not being a doc) is this sounds like a step backward. I hope I am wrong.


53 posted on 01/16/2011 11:49:43 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Um, no. I totally disagree.


54 posted on 01/16/2011 11:52:50 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: 13Sisters76

If reporters had a clue they would be asking questions and not parroting what they are being lead to believe. I actually heard one of them say she could be back in DC in six months.


55 posted on 01/16/2011 12:01:12 PM PST by kcvl
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To: eastforker
Why is she on a ventilator?I thought she was breathing on her own? Something tells me she is in worse condition than reported.

Yes, this doesn't appear to be consistent with the standard propaganda that 'they' have been feeding us.

56 posted on 01/16/2011 12:03:51 PM PST by PAR35
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To: kcvl

I suppose everyone wants this to be true, even we conservs. I think it is most unlikely, though. They are very excited about her reactions to external stimuli, but that isn’t necessarily proof of cognizance, as we were sadly told in the Schiavo case (that one pi$$ed me off plenty!).
As I said, she may well recover a certain amount of function, but I truly believe her days as a congress person are over.


57 posted on 01/16/2011 12:09:40 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

A breathing hole? What is she, a whale?


58 posted on 01/16/2011 12:12:57 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: eastforker
Why is she on a ventilator?I thought she was breathing on her own? Something tells me she is in worse condition than reported.

Truthfully, I haven't been following her medical condition very closely. I thought she was off the vent. Frankly, I can't figure out why they did a trach now. Perhaps they think she will need to return to the vent soon. The "breathing hole in her throat" would make it much easier to put her back on the ventilator than intubating her.

/end speculation

What I would rather hear is something like, "she remains in serious, but stable, condition"

59 posted on 01/16/2011 12:15:31 PM PST by Miss_Meyet (Goodbye, Tagline! It's not you, it's me.)
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To: 13Sisters76

Yes, I know what intubating a patient means. Just because Giffords was intubated doesn’t mean she was also hyperventilated.

As a matter of fact, hyperventilation in TBI (traumatic brain injury) is not SOP. It is now generally accepted that limiting the use of hyperventilation in TBI may help improve neurologic recovery following injury, or at least avoid iatrogenic cerebral ischemia.


60 posted on 01/16/2011 12:24:27 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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