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To: SandRat
Then he definitely would not like my WWII/Korea vintage M-1 .308 with the 8-round clip or my M-14 7.62mm NATO with a 10-round magazine.

1) the M-14 is a full auto weapon, placed in service in the mid-1950's to replace the M1. The civilian version is called the M1A, which is a semi-automatic (i.e. self-loading, one shot per trigger pull) rifle. Both come standard with a 20-round box magazine, though you can obtain others (5, 10, 15, 25 and 30 that I've seen, not all of which are reliable - esp. those made in Red China).

2) I suspect that he'd dislike either one even more if the rounds are loaded with AP bullets (still plenty out there, folks).

40 posted on 01/14/2011 10:30:36 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Ancesthntr
1) the M-14 is a full auto weapon, placed in service in the mid-1950's to replace the M1. The civilian version is called the M1A, which is a semi-automatic (i.e. self-loading, one shot per trigger pull) rifle. Both come standard with a 20-round box magazine, though you can obtain others (5, 10, 15, 25 and 30 that I've seen, not all of which are reliable - esp. those made in Red China).

M14 was/is a semi auto...the fully auto was/is M14E2 and that was selective (single/fully auto)...replaced the BAR in '63

49 posted on 01/14/2011 10:47:40 AM PST by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: Ancesthntr
2) I suspect that he'd dislike either one even more if the rounds are loaded with AP bullets (still plenty out there, folks).

Even more than you might suspect. If you reload ammo, then you could consider buying obsolete Russian rimmed 7.62x54 that is fired in the common Moisin-Nagant rifles. That stuff used iron or steel cored bullets as a more plentiful alternative to lead. Use a magnet to verify before buying. The stuff is .30 caliber and the slugs could be pulled to reload into .308 or .30-06 brass. You would have to consider the bullet weight and resistance to rifling as you work up a safe powder load. I doubt you would find published loading data for these, so unless you are a seasoned reloader and understand the issues and potential dangers of working up custom loads, don't try this.

54 posted on 01/14/2011 11:19:35 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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