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Afghans Have To Earn The M24
Strategy Page ^ | January 13, 2011

Posted on 01/13/2011 4:31:59 PM PST by Pan_Yan

January 13, 2011: Afghanistan is buying over a thousand American M24 sniper rifles for its army and police. These will be delivered over the next 40 months. Why not deliver them faster? Because most Afghans are lousy shots. While there are a lot of weapons in Afghanistan, and most families have one, there is not a lot of money for ammunition. Many of the weapons are old (often a century old) rifles and shotguns. Afghanistan is a very poor, if heavily armed, country. While marksmanship is admired, shooting skills have greatly deteriorated in the last three decades. Thus the U.S. is not supplying the Afghans with the more powerful .300 Winchester magnum version of the M24 (the M2010).

The big issue in Afghanistan is how to get Afghans to shoot more accurately. To remedy this problem, NATO trainers have obtained large amounts of rifle ammunition and are having Afghan troops expend it regularly learning to fire accurately. Afghans, and especially the Taliban, consider themselves great warriors. But they are not noted for their accuracy in a firefight. Blame this on new toys. Since the 1980s, the country has been awash with AK-47s and RPG rocket launchers. The Afghans took to the AK-47, and the thrill of emptying a 30 round magazine on full automatic, as a worthy battlefield technique. Actually, it's not bad for a brief, close range firefight, especially if you were fighting other Afghans. But against soldiers who aim and fire single shots, the "spray and pray" approach gets you killed.

NATO troops have built rifle ranges for the Afghan Army, and trained Afghan officers and NCOs in time-tested techniques of becoming an accurate shot, and training other Afghans to do the same. Afghan troops are also being equipped with M-16 rifles.

(Excerpt) Read more at strategypage.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; banglist; m24
Interesting read.
1 posted on 01/13/2011 4:32:01 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

“Insh’Allah” is why the Afghans and most Muslims are terrible shots. ‘Insh’Allah’ means (more or less) ‘It is God’s will’.

Long story short, to develop a skill and employ it is to display a lack of faith in Allah. See, if Allah wants to kill who you’re pointing at the bullet will hit them. It’s not up to you.

That said, the reason the Afghans want these rifles is so they can make a bundle selling them to someone else.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 4:38:55 PM PST by MeganC (I'm allergic to tequila. When I drink it I break out in handcuffs.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Let’s hope they are not used against us by brain damaged mudslime followers.


3 posted on 01/13/2011 4:43:01 PM PST by soycd
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To: Pan_Yan

Instead of giving them VERY expensive M1010’s (with OUR tax money), give them some tweaked Savage hunting rifles with decent scopes. The Savage rifles are said to be sub MOA right out of the box.


4 posted on 01/13/2011 4:58:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: MeganC

I totally agree

EL


5 posted on 01/13/2011 4:59:40 PM PST by Eureka_Lead (No political party has ever become a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms)
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To: Pan_Yan

What’s the over and under on the number that will be in the Taliban’s hands in 6 months?


6 posted on 01/13/2011 5:02:55 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome
What’s the over and under on the number that will be in the Taliban’s hands in 6 months?

From the article:
"These will be delivered over the next 40 months."

What is the over/under that there is still an Afghan government to ship them to in 40 months?

7 posted on 01/13/2011 5:15:17 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

There’ll be a government. Probably one that ain’t too friendly to us.


8 posted on 01/13/2011 5:22:44 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

So you’re saying nothing will change.


9 posted on 01/13/2011 5:37:43 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

heh. Yup.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 5:42:04 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

i agree. my bowning 22-250 is a tack driver.


11 posted on 01/13/2011 5:42:38 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: Pan_Yan
One of my cousins is an Army Ranger and he was one of the first units in Afghanistan.

After one of his tours he said precisely what this story says: Afghans aren't good shots and their equipment didn't help them one bit.

12 posted on 01/13/2011 6:06:35 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Pan_Yan
What are the chances that the M24s will be used against American and NATO forces?
13 posted on 01/14/2011 6:58:53 AM PST by 2001convSVT (That Beck guy was right about gold, too.)
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To: 2001convSVT
What are the chances that the M24s will be used against American and NATO forces?

Better than 98%.

14 posted on 01/14/2011 7:00:54 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
That is what I though, the M24s should not be sold to the Afghans, or only when all Americans have left.
15 posted on 01/14/2011 7:29:20 AM PST by 2001convSVT (That Beck guy was right about gold, too.)
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To: 2001convSVT

Giving an Afghan soldier a $7,000.00 purpose built rifle is pretty close to the textbook definition of insanity.


16 posted on 01/14/2011 7:42:22 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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