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ATF Joins Investigation of Fatal Car Fire (Turton Death Unsolved)
WTOP.com ^ | 1/11/2011 | Darci Marchese

Posted on 01/12/2011 12:02:33 PM PST by Gabrial

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives will work directly with D.C. Police to determine how 37-year-old Ashley Westbrook Turton's SUV became engulfed in flames in the garage of her home early Monday.

...the D.C. Office of the Chief Medical Examiner has finished an autopsy on Turton. D.C. Office of the Chief Medical Examiner Chief of Staff Beverly Fields says more testing needs to be done to determine the cause and manner of death.

(Excerpt) Read more at wtop.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: District of Columbia
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To: worst-case scenario
“Or it could be a robbery-murder. Those things happen in DC.”

I certainly thought about that. However, it is hard for me to imagine a robber taking time to torch the car, which would draw additional attention to the scene as the perp was trying to get away at 5 AM in the morning.

I would expect a robbery gone wrong would leave evidence on the victim, (e.g., knife wound, gunshot wound, or blunt force trauma) that would make it easy for the person doing the autopsy to determine the cause of death.

As far as Tucson, I don't think there is any question at all what happened. Hundreds of witnesses. Democrats were simply trying “not to let a crisis go to waste” and got called on it.

It will be very interesting to see what conclusions are made public in this case.

21 posted on 01/12/2011 12:48:44 PM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: RonInNaples
“Saw the pictures of the garage and car. Here’s my conspiracy theory contribution. The car was unrecognizable as such...”

I think the picture you are referring was a picture of the stuff that had been in the garage in front of the car. The car was intact after the fire, sticking 1/8 of the way out of the garage. I think just the front of the car was burned from the pictures I have seen.

22 posted on 01/12/2011 12:51:59 PM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Gabrial
Another theory ——> The Maryland packages (plus one D.C. package) were not meant to work properly for whatever reason (again I do not know) so create a ruse with the other packages, for whatever reason and then place one package which was / is set to work to the perpetrator(s) knowledge while setting in the investigators' minds the packages are not related? I have to think the investigators have ruled this in or out based on the similar or non-similar types of packaging (if the package survived in any form in the SUV) if a package was used? I'll stop now, I'm throwing out too many questions.
23 posted on 01/12/2011 12:56:04 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Candor7; unkus; justiceseeker93; freekitty; flat; Las Vegas Ron; libertyhoundusnr; SkyPilot; ...

Politicians are selectively upset over murder when it suits their Liberal purpose. Political Elites are not at all interested when they choose to hide the truth, e.g., Vince Foster.


24 posted on 01/12/2011 1:08:27 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Gabrial

Well well....

Should this be added to the Obama deadpool? Time will tell.

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


25 posted on 01/12/2011 1:14:33 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: RonInNaples
"Saw the pictures of the garage and car. Here’s my conspiracy theory contribution. The car was unrecognizable as such, yet nothing at all had happened to the aluminum step-ladder mere feet from pieces of the car."

The BMW SUV in this picture is the vehicle involved in the fire

26 posted on 01/12/2011 1:16:09 PM PST by Mila
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To: Gabrial
she may have been in a low speed crash before the fire erupted.

These people need to drop the "low speed crash" because turning the key doesn't create speed. However, the force of whatever it was that caused the fire most likely caused the car to bump into something.

27 posted on 01/12/2011 1:16:23 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Gadsden1st
What ever happened to the guy who fell out of the dumpster?

Move along. Nothing to see.

28 posted on 01/12/2011 1:17:57 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Gabrial

Doesn’t just the front of the car burn if the engine catches fire and sets fire to brake fluid (which is highly flammable)? We had a case here just a while ago where someone was at a stop light and her engine caught fire; fortunately, she grabbed her baby out of the car seat and leaped out of the car right away, because then the brake fluid caught fire and the entire passenger compartment was engulfed immediately.

So perhaps if this woman didn’t notice or didn’t react quickly enough to the fire, it would have been too late for her. I was a little puzzled at what she was doing there at 4:30 a.m., though. Or perhaps I have the time wrong and 4:30 was just when they found the car (which still doesn’t explain why nobody noticed that she was missing if she was due back earlier).

Strange case, and it’s hard not to suspect foul play. Possibly she wasn’t the target though.


29 posted on 01/12/2011 1:20:04 PM PST by livius
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To: Gabrial
I said I would stop, but two more questions....

If a package was used, was it was delivered (secretly) or was it handed to the victim, because she knew the person handing over the package (of course this implies a package was used, again I do not know), around 5 AM that morning? Did she know the person, if something was given to her by someone during or near that time frame of 5 AM, thus the something would be willingly accepted?

30 posted on 01/12/2011 1:20:04 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: All

Stike second was in first sentence, please.


31 posted on 01/12/2011 1:23:41 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: bereanway

Late model cars almost never burn unless involved in a very high impact collision or an electrical fire which are slow developing. At any rate still very rare.

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The most common car fires are leaves in the ventilation system ,, the resistors that slow the fan (at all speeds other than HIGH) get pretty hot...

I’m wondering about electrical systems or gas appliances located in the garage area ,, such as water heaters...


32 posted on 01/12/2011 1:27:00 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Gabrial

Speculation : closed garage, driver warming-up car or attempting suicide. After she loses consciousness car overheats and catches fire.
Second possibility murder and set-up to look like.suicide


33 posted on 01/12/2011 1:27:58 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Gabrial
Interesting how this one did slip underneath the radar so quickly.
So BMW's just blow up and burn to a crisp. Interesting. Perhaps she was sniffing gasoline and smoking a funny weed at the same time./sarc.
Looks like a cover up for the big boy in the WH at this point.
34 posted on 01/12/2011 1:31:48 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: RonInNaples
The car was very recognizable. The fire was contained.
35 posted on 01/12/2011 1:32:20 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: GOYAKLA
“Speculation : closed garage...”

They said the car was partially pulled out of the garage when it was found...pictures showed the rear of the car poking out of the open garage about 1/8th of the way. Back of the car had no apparent damage.

36 posted on 01/12/2011 1:36:09 PM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Gabrial; bgill; Albion Wilde; WestCoastGal; AdamBomb; Aleya2Fairlie; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ...
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ATF Joins Investigation of Fatal Car Fire (Turton Death Unsolved)

Check out article and # 1.

Photos at # 35.

37 posted on 01/12/2011 1:41:18 PM PST by LucyT
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To: org.whodat

LOL, how drool! OTOH these type of questions must be asked when the ATF becomes involved. I suspect F Troop was called in to muddy the waters so badly no conclusion could be drawn. They would have called in the Park police but they didn’t have the foresight to move her to one ala Vince.


38 posted on 01/12/2011 1:48:10 PM PST by 556x45
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To: RonInNaples

“The car was unrecognizable as such, yet nothing at all had happened to the aluminum step-ladder mere feet from pieces of the car. Any fire hot enough to reduce that car into that state should have caused some warping or damage to that ladder.”

Your statement is a total load of BS, all one needs to do is google her first and last name and images and here car is easy to recognize. (former professional ff)


39 posted on 01/12/2011 1:49:50 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: Candor7

The two homo’s at his church.


40 posted on 01/12/2011 1:51:56 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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