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Radical Muslims in America: All the Benefits and Still Turning to Jihad
Hudson New York ^ | January 12, 2011 | Raymond Ibraham

Posted on 01/12/2011 10:34:08 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now

.... According to Holder, in the last two years, 50 of the 126 people charged with terrorism were U.S. citizens. . . .

. . . .the fact that Americans are being radicalized not only bodes ill for U.S. security; it also suggests that American efforts in the Muslim world are doomed to failure. Consider: if American Muslims, who enjoy Western benefits—including democracy, liberty, prosperity, and freedom of expression—are still being radicalized, why then do we insist that importing these same benefits to the Muslim world will eliminate its even more ingrained form of "radicalization"?

After all, the mainstream position, the only one evoked by politicians, both Democrat and Republican, is that all the sacrifices America makes in the Muslim world (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.), will pay off once Muslims discover how wonderful Western ways are, and happily slough off their Islamist veneer, which, as the theory goes, is a product of—you guessed it—a lack of democracy, liberty, prosperity, and freedom of expression. Yet here are American Muslims, immersed in the bounties of the West—and still do they turn to violent jihad.

In short, America needs to rethink its strategy for the war on terrorism—both at home and abroad. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at hudson-ny.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: islamism; jihadinamerica; muslima; muslimamericans; radicalization; radicalmuslims; terrorism

1 posted on 01/12/2011 10:34:15 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

thats ok ...the left will support their killing ways


2 posted on 01/12/2011 10:36:32 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

When was the last time an Attorney General charged a US citizen for sedition ?


3 posted on 01/12/2011 10:39:14 AM PST by maine yankee
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

The logic in this article is flawed. The fact that a handful of American Muslims become radicalized, out of the millions that exist in this country, does not mean that the majority of people in Muslim countries will not adhere to the benefits of a more democratic, western culture.

I think the Bush doctrine of advancing more democratic, western values in the Middle East is a good one, and will pay long term benefits.


4 posted on 01/12/2011 10:39:16 AM PST by Laserman
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Islam - to know it is to loath it.


5 posted on 01/12/2011 10:46:04 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

We seem the same behavior in the mentally ill illegals, who fled Mexico for a better life and after getting it thanks to our tax $’s, pay us back by burning our flags and worse.


6 posted on 01/12/2011 10:46:42 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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The thing that bothers me is that the Quorum teaches what a Muslims should do to nonbelievers, kill them unless they embrace the teachings of the Quorum. Every one of them believes this, for not believing is a death sentence. When I hear them proclaiming something else I will rethink my position. But for now I do not trust any Muslim.
7 posted on 01/12/2011 10:55:35 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Laserman
The fact that a handful of American Muslims become radicalized, out of the millions that exist in this country, does not mean that the majority of people in Muslim countries will not adhere to the benefits of a more democratic, western culture.

That would work under most situations;but the problem is fundamental Muslims following the Koran and Hadiths as written. They have no choice but to subjugate, convert or kill anyone who does not believe "There is only one God and Muhammed is his prophet"

The fundamental Muslims are doing God's bidding, they are not fighting for any country, family tribe etc..They do what is necessary to please God and to gain a promised eternal reward for themselves. Killing Infidels is a way to accomplish that. Adopting Infidel ways is an affront to their God and they won't buy into that bribe offered by us Infidels. Some will become our "Useful Idiots" and collaborate with us Infidels but the fundamentalists won't.

This is a religiously driven problem and if you don't realize that, you will only treat the symptoms,which will get worse, if you do not address the basic problem -Islam. - Tom

8 posted on 01/12/2011 10:57:14 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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As the country bows down and begs forgiveness for putting those eeevvvilll capitalist towers with all those eeevvviiill capitalists in the way of those innocent oppressed young men as they carried out their religious objective on 9/11, 2001.

This crowd has become America’s #1 victim group - able to demand and get whatever it wants.


9 posted on 01/12/2011 11:12:03 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: Capt. Tom

>>This is a religiously driven problem and if you don’t realize that, you will only treat the symptoms,which will get worse, if you do not address the basic problem -Islam. <<

Suggestions are:

1.

2.

3.


10 posted on 01/12/2011 11:14:02 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

More benefits—medicaid/medicare.


11 posted on 01/12/2011 11:17:01 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: B4Ranch

>>This is a religiously driven problem and if you don’t realize that, you will only treat the symptoms,which will get worse, if you do not address the basic problem -Islam. <<

Suggestions are:

Wrestle it to the ground and drive a stake in its heart?


12 posted on 01/12/2011 12:39:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: B4Ranch
>>This is a religiously driven problem and if you don’t realize that, you will only treat the symptoms,which will get worse, if you do not address the basic problem -Islam. << Suggestions are:

1.The basis of the problem being religious has to be stressed.

2.Diversions and excuses to avoid the reality of Islam like" "Religion of Peace", and "Radical extremists", and " Hijackers, has to be confronted and shot down. These people who are kiling us are fundamentalists, and are following the religion as written. Those writings you can read in the Koran and Hadiths.

3. Poison the religion by freeing the women from Islam's restraints. - tom

13 posted on 01/12/2011 1:53:39 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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Can we banish them from the CONUS unless they build a Catholic church or a Jewish mosque or a Mormon temple in Saudi Arabia.

Tom, fair is fair. They come over here wanting us to do all this stuff because they’re muslums. OK, do the same in your country or get out of ours.


14 posted on 01/12/2011 2:13:25 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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