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ACORN leader avoids prison for voter fraud conspiracy (400,000 bogus registrations)
Daily Caller ^ | 1/12/11 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 01/12/2011 2:30:49 AM PST by markomalley

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To: kindred

The problem is the GOP does not have the guts to fight fire with fire. Bush gave all the abuses and corruption of the Clinton years a free pass and his father spent the entire 8 years of Bush Jr.’s Presidency becoming Clinton’s buddy and, thereby, rehabilitating Clinton’s image. There should have been a massive witch hunt commencing in 2000 because there were plenty of witches to hunt. They all got a free pass, while the likes of DeLay and Scooter Libby were persecuted.


61 posted on 01/13/2011 5:47:02 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: mo

“IMHO..the judge is colluding...”
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The judge fined her $4000., the PROSECUTION had asked for just $1000! Sounds like the collusions are colliding.


62 posted on 01/13/2011 6:01:48 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: TheConservator

“The contrast with the 3 year sentence handed out to DeLay is remarkable.”

That is the first thought that came to mind when I read the post.

EODGUY


63 posted on 01/13/2011 8:05:55 AM PST by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: markomalley

*sigh* treason used to be a hangin’ offense.


64 posted on 01/13/2011 8:42:14 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 723 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: DoughtyOne
It’s shocking to see how little respect the prosecutors and the judge have for our electoral process. IMO, 400,000 illegal registrations calls for some serious jail time. It’s literally impossible to pass this off like she didn’t know about it either.

Unfortunately, it looks like the judge's hands were tied here. Voter fraud is a Class E felony in Nevada. By statute (NRS 176A-100(1)(b)), with a Class E felony, "the court shall suspend the execution of the sentence imposed and grant probation to the person." (emphasis added)

The court may only decide not to suspend the sentence if the defendant was on probation or parole for a felony when the crime was committed; had previously had probation or parole for felony conviction revoked; had previously failed to complete a court assigned rehab program; or had previously been twice convicted of felonies. As far as I know, none of those apply to Busefink.

So, it seems like the judge and prosecutor aren't to blame here, but rather the Nevada legislature.
65 posted on 01/13/2011 9:00:07 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Monkey Face; mo

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the judge’s fault. The judge was required by statute to suspend the jail sentence and give her probation. See post #65 for details.


66 posted on 01/13/2011 9:04:09 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Monkey Face; mo

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the judge’s fault. The judge was required by statute to suspend the jail sentence and give her probation. See post #65 for details.


67 posted on 01/13/2011 9:04:14 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: The Pack Knight

I agree with your reasoning, but what a screwed up situation.

Our nation is nothing without fair elections.

It would seem the legislature had it’s head in a strange place on the day these rules were ratified. That’s for sure.


68 posted on 01/13/2011 9:05:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I should say that the judge didn’t completely throw the book at her, but there wasn’t a whole lot more he could have done. I think he could have imposed an additional $1,000 in fines (the statutory maximum is $5,000) and he might have been able to impose more community service and other conditions, though there may be additional guidelines he has to follow that aren’t in the part of the statute I read.

You’re right that it’s a crazy situation. The worst thing is that no state other than Georgia actually verifies the citizenship of registered voters. Arizona had a law that required one to present proof of citizenship in order to register to vote, but that was struck down by a federal court which held that the Arizona law was preempted by the National Voter Registration Act.

Georgia has survived by using a less “burdensome” system - it checks voter registration against DMV records which show whether one produced proof of citizenship or mere legal residence when obtaining a Georgia drivers’ license. Now, I don’t know what they do with voters who have no driver’s license, but it’s better than nothing. That law has been challenged as violating the Voting Rights Act, but last I heard it has yet to be struck down.

It’s absurd that there is really very little stopping non-citizens from registering to vote in most states. Technically it would be a crime, but who’s going to catch them? There is hardly any difference anymore between being a citizen and being a permanent resident alien. I am hard pressed to think of more than a couple things that the former can do that the latter cannot.


69 posted on 01/13/2011 9:49:00 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: The Pack Knight

Thanks for your comments. Some of it was informative. The rest that related to your thoughts on the subject were things I agree with. Take care.


70 posted on 01/13/2011 9:58:06 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: The Raven

Disgraceful!


71 posted on 01/13/2011 10:04:52 AM PST by Macgedos
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To: Baynative

Can someone put a target over her picture? Just kidding!


72 posted on 01/13/2011 12:31:46 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: DallasSun

Isn’t the fact that she was involved with ACORN enough community service? That’s what zero did - community organizing.

This sentence is a joke!


73 posted on 01/13/2011 1:37:27 PM PST by Catsrus (Have)
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To: The Pack Knight

If only citizens voted the Congress would have several dozen more conservative members in each chamber.And a lot of big-city mayors would have different credentials.


74 posted on 01/13/2011 6:47:36 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Vaquero

and didn’t they get Delay on a retroactive law that should not have been able to get him on because what he did was legal at the time he supposedly did it????


A day late to this thread but wanted to comment on your concern about the retroactive law. DeLay was indicted on one count under the Texas Election Code and that count was thrown out by Judge Preist basically for the reason you cited. DeLay was also indicted for two counts under the Texas Criminal Statutes for money laundering and conspiriacy to commit money laundering or however the indictments read. It is these two counts that DeLay was convicted on. These were and are valid laws in place at the time of the supposedly commission of the offenses.


75 posted on 01/13/2011 6:57:40 PM PST by deport
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To: TheConservator

The contrast with the 3 year sentence handed out to DeLay is remarkable.””

No one here of FR ever need wonder again how Dirty Harry got re-elected with a 10 point swing in the vote from the polls.


76 posted on 01/15/2011 8:09:50 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Psycho_Bunny

This is another look at how much control Reid has in Clark County, Nevada.


77 posted on 01/15/2011 9:52:50 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: markomalley

Typically in America those who are connected politically are less likely to face even minimal jail time than someone who shoplifts a loaf of bread. That is wrong. My view is corruption becomes contagious and that anyone (left or right) who illegally works to corrupt our system or our government should face 10 years minimum in prison, and if they were “sworn” individuals (elected officials, judges, LE, etc) it should be 20 years.


78 posted on 01/16/2011 6:48:35 AM PST by apoliticalone
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