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After shooting, House Dems take small steps in moving gun reform
The Hill ^ | January 10, 2011 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 01/10/2011 6:59:31 PM PST by Second Amendment First

Saturday’s shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and 19 others has reignited the Capitol Hill debate over the scope of the Second Amendment — an issue that’s been all but dormant in Washington for several years.

Yet the liberal push to bolster the nation’s gun laws is running smack into the political reality that the current Congress simply has no appetite for gun reform — even in the wake of an assassination attempt on one of its members.

As a result, Capitol Hill gun reformers are instead offering a much more limited proposal in the wake of the Arizona rampage.

Indeed, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) — both advocates for sweeping gun reforms like a return of the assault-weapons ban — are crafting legislation this week that tackles just a tiny sliver of that law, which expired in 2004. Their bill would ban high-capacity magazines, or clips, like those allegedly used by Jared Lee Loughner, the 22-year-old arrested in the Arizona shootings.

“The only reason to have 33 bullets loaded in a handgun is to kill a lot of people very quickly,” Lautenberg said Monday in a statement announcing the bill. “Before 2004, these ammunition clips were banned, and they must be banned again.”

Even that limited proposal has yet to win the backing of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), who have thus far declined to weigh in on any new reforms.

“At the moment the leader’s thoughts and prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords and those who were killed and injured,” Pelosi’s office said Monday when asked about potential reforms stemming from the tragedy.

A Hoyer spokesman was more certain that lawmakers would take a look at gun reform options, but offered no specifics about what those reforms might look like — or if they stand a chance of passing a GOP-led House.

“In the wake of this terrible tragedy, Congress will undoubtedly look closely at how to prevent incidents like this from happening in the future,” the spokesman said Monday in an e-mail.

For McCarthy, the congressional face of gun reform who came to Congress three years after her husband was killed and son injured by a gunman on a commuter train, scaling back the reforms has been an exercise in political pragmatism.

“I’ve been in Congress 14 years,” McCarthy told The Huffington Post on Monday. “I know what I can get passed and I know what I can’t get passed. And if I wanted to get something symbolic … it won’t go anywhere. It won’t even get to committee.”

McCarthy spokesman Shams Tarek said the lawmaker has reached out to both Pelosi and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) in an effort to discern “what’s reasonable, what’s feasible, what can actually pass.”

“We’re not married to any specific language right now,” Tarek said, emphasizing that ultimately, the definition of “high-capacity” will hinge on what lawmakers are willing to accept. “That’s going to dictate what the final number will be.”

Boehner’s office on Monday implied the McCarthy bill is a Democratic attempt to politicize the Arizona tragedy.

“This is a time for the House and all Americans to come together to mourn our losses and pray for those who are recovering, not a time for politics,” Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said in an e-mail.

In response to a reporter’s questions about possible reforms to gun law, National Rifle Association (NRA) spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it’s too early to say.

“At this time, anything other than prayers for the victims and their families would be inappropriate,” Arulanandam said in an e-mail.

The shootings have reopened a debate on both mental illness and gun control.

Loughner, according to numerous reports, exhibited behavioral problems that led to his expulsion from a Tucson-area community college. Some of the reports, along with bizarre postings he appears to have put on YouTube, have raised questions about his mental competence.

In the wake of the 2007 shooting spree at Virginia Tech, Congress passed legislation designed to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. That bipartisan bill — supported by both gun control advocates and the NRA — provides states with financial incentives to improve their reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) in an effort to block gun purchases by criminals and those deemed mentally ill.

Chad Ramsey, federal legislative director of the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence, said Monday that “some” states are improving their NICS reporting based on those grants, “but most aren’t.”

Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) said this week that the Arizona shooting is clear evidence that the current system of background checks is “of no use.”

“He [Loughner] was able to go to the store in Tucson in November and buy a Glock 9. … That by itself is pretty scary,” Slaughter told reporters on a phone call Monday. “Doesn’t anybody remember Columbine? Doesn’t anybody remember Virginia Tech? … We really have got to have some serious discussions here.”

Slaughter said the assault-weapons ban would “absolutely” have helped to reduce the damage done in Saturday’s rampage. The expiration of that law, said the New York Democrat, “has really allowed anyone who wants to to get their hands on these weapons.”

Tarek was quick to emphasize that McCarthy has no intention of broadening the coming legislation beyond the ban on high-capacity clips.

“The more you broaden it, the more obstacles you have,” he said.


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Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) said this week that the Arizona shooting is clear evidence that the current system of background checks is “of no use.”

But I thought that was the solution to the "gun show loophole". These frigging idiots are all over the map on this.

1 posted on 01/10/2011 6:59:33 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

frightened cowardly RINO’s will join them.


2 posted on 01/10/2011 7:00:40 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: GeronL

Not enough of them. Didn’t NRA back alot of Democrats?


3 posted on 01/10/2011 7:03:53 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Second Amendment First

Well they banned guns in Washington DC and yet the gun deaths still occurred. Wonder how that happened. Don’t the guns know that they can’t cross the line. So happy that somebody “did something” about gun crime.


4 posted on 01/10/2011 7:04:30 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Second Amendment First

LOWER MY TAXES


5 posted on 01/10/2011 7:04:38 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Second Amendment First

“Political vultures who scavenge political capital as they pick through the horrific violence.” - Victor Davis Hanson.


6 posted on 01/10/2011 7:05:01 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Second Amendment First

The real issue for the Left is B.S. reform. Everybody with half a mind now knows they are swimming in it.


7 posted on 01/10/2011 7:05:14 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Second Amendment First

If congress can mandate obamacare why can’t they mandate that every able bodied, law abiding citizen must own a gun? If you can’t afford one, one will be provided for you.

(Vote for me)


8 posted on 01/10/2011 7:07:20 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: cotton1706
Carolyn McCarthy is an idiot. Her husband killed and son wounded by a racist black man, her rage is focused on the tool used by the killer.

Colin Ferguson is a Jamaican-American mass murderer who was convicted of murdering six people and injuring nineteen others on the Long Island Rail Road in Garden City, New York. On December 7, 1993, as the train pulled into the Merillon Avenue Station, Ferguson pulled out his gun and started firing at passengers. He killed six and wounded nineteen before being stopped by three of the passengers: Kevin Blum, Mark McEntee, and Mike O'Connor. Ferguson's trial was notable for a number of unusual developments, including his firing of his defense counsel and insisting on representing himself and questioning his own victims on the stand. Ferguson was convicted on February 17, 1995, of murder for the deaths of the six passengers who died of their injuries. He was also convicted of attempted murder for wounding nineteen passengers. He is serving his sentence of 315-years-and-8-months to life at the Attica Correctional Facility in western New York. His current earliest possible parole date is August 6, 2309.

9 posted on 01/10/2011 7:08:19 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Seems to me that it would be easier if they just outlaw murder........oh, wait.


10 posted on 01/10/2011 7:08:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.)

Her very name is inflammatory!

11 posted on 01/10/2011 7:08:56 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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>> Even that limited proposal has yet to win the backing of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.)

Who gives a rat’s azz whether Pelosi backs it. I could care less about that botoxed beyotch.

What’s important is whether or not BONER caves in and backs such legislation. Will he stand firm and reject this nonsense? Let’s hope so.


12 posted on 01/10/2011 7:09:15 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: scooby321

The NRA worked hard to help the Democrats keep as many House seats as possible. The NRA s*cks.


13 posted on 01/10/2011 7:09:52 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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Slaughter said the assault-weapons ban would “absolutely” have helped to reduce the damage done in Saturday’s rampage. The expiration of that law, said the New York Democrat, “has really allowed anyone who wants to to get their hands on these weapons.”

Huh? I know you are about 98 years old, Ms. Slaughter, but what the hell are you talking about? He used a Glock 19, (not a Glock "9" per the article), which was totally UNRELATED to anything in the Assault Weapons Ban. If you are talking about standard capacity (aka "high capacity" ) magazines, even they were grandfathered in with the AWB. Before you numbskulls go around passing ridiculous freedom-hating legislation, why don't you learn WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Oh yeah, "tone down the political rhetoric?" FU, commie libs.

14 posted on 01/10/2011 7:10:19 PM PST by GnL
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To: cotton1706
It makes as much sense as outlawing the demons that get inside people that make them turn to such violence. We all here know what the Left wants to really do.
15 posted on 01/10/2011 7:10:55 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Graybeard58
After shooting, House Dems take small steps in moving gun reform

Dem Control, not Gun Control.
16 posted on 01/10/2011 7:11:08 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Graybeard58
If you can’t afford one, one will be provided for you.

I'm more of the passive sort of person. Can I get a lifetime supply of claymores?
17 posted on 01/10/2011 7:11:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Graybeard58

OK, I’ll vote for you, but those that can’t afford their weapon of choice will have to settle for a government issued single shot .22 short.


18 posted on 01/10/2011 7:11:58 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Graybeard58

>> [Louise Slaughter...] Her very name is inflammatory!

ROFL! Yeah, there IS that. She should be required to immediately change her name to Peta Vegan.


19 posted on 01/10/2011 7:12:41 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Graybeard58

LOL! If the “Job-killing” bill is inappropriately named, as at least one Democrat claims, then certainly Louise Slaughter should be banned from the House of Representatives. Her name (let alone her communist politics) is incendiary.


20 posted on 01/10/2011 7:13:16 PM PST by GnL
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