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Tucson Shootings: Jared Lee Loughner's Parents Alone With Their Anguish
The Los Angeles Times ^ | Monday, January 10, 2011 | Sam Quinones

Posted on 01/10/2011 6:51:58 PM PST by kristinn

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To: silverleaf

Your post leaves me humbled to the point of squinting eyes, prayers for you Silverleaf, something’s real and perhaps experienced behind that post, something that would drive the rest of us to our knees and rightfully so...


41 posted on 01/10/2011 7:25:26 PM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: yldstrk

Only if they tried to get him professional help over the last few years. Otherwise, they were enablers.


42 posted on 01/10/2011 7:26:08 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Jet Jaguar

He killed/injured 19 people. What kind of gun was this guy using. Don’t most semi-automatic pistols hold 16 per magazine? Did he have time to reload?


43 posted on 01/10/2011 7:26:36 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: Jet Jaguar
Parents should share the blame. They and the sheriff knew he was nuts.

Really, what could they have done?

Years ago, it was decided that the mentally ill's civil rights outweighed their need for treatment. The viewpoint was, "you have a right to be crazy" and hands were tied. Hospitals were emptied and the insane were sent out to the streets to fend for themselves. As is the case, it is often very difficult today to get an adult mentally ill family member the care they need. All too often, they can't be institutionalized against their will until after they've hurt themselves or committed a crime and by then it's too late -for themselves and their victims.

Just a sad story for everyone involved.

44 posted on 01/10/2011 7:27:37 PM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Sarah Barracuda

>> I’m supposed to believe they did not know that was going on..

What would you do, rewire his brain?

We’re trivializing the complexity of dealing with young males that have serious psychological problems. Some parents escape into blind hope because they’re unable to cope with the reality of what has become of their child. It can be a living hell for a family that has to deal with this type of thing.

The fact the father is reported to be a “hot head”, and the mother “a liberal” does not necessarily make them responsible for the massacre. Right now, there’s one suspect in custody, and that’s Jared.


45 posted on 01/10/2011 7:27:55 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I know. I just had a weak moment.


46 posted on 01/10/2011 7:28:15 PM PST by sport
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To: higgmeister

Are you perfect? Do you not sin?

I think back on my (late) grandparents who raised a cold blooded killer son but yet raised 3 other normal children as well.


47 posted on 01/10/2011 7:28:55 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Libs are pro life only when it comes to animals. When it comes to humans they are pro death.)
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To: kristinn

Where are Loughner’s high school teachers? Other relatives? Where he worked? The people he volunteered with at that big crossword puzzle? People at the local gas station? Video gamers? People who sell candles & stuff like for what that shrine thingy was. Groups he belonged to. Clothes he bought. Grocery store people. Pharmacists. Anybody.

We have 2 or 3, here and there. The guy with the pink hair, etc.

You would think people in Tucson would be burning up the airwaves. At the places where the parents work, the PTA, etc.


48 posted on 01/10/2011 7:28:59 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I think the sheriff might be trying to divert attention from himself. It sounds as if he had some contact in the past with Jared and they knew he had some serious problems. I think there should be an investigation. We all know how the far left liberals make excuses for evil people and nut cases. As long as they are not conservative or Christian that is.


49 posted on 01/10/2011 7:29:17 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: muawiyah

Interestingly, schizophrenics do not tend to be any more violent than the population at-large. Of course, when they are violent, it gets plenty of media attention.


50 posted on 01/10/2011 7:29:30 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: silverleaf

I totally agree with silverleaf. You all have no idea what you are talking about and are just hotheads.


51 posted on 01/10/2011 7:30:06 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“he had a tent outside their house where he would go pray to a SKULL..”

where’d that come from!!!???


52 posted on 01/10/2011 7:31:19 PM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: kristinn

The community college had the parents come in because of his being a violent threat to others.

The kid had skulls and candles in their backyard.

The parents along with Sheriif Dupnic are more to blame than the mentally ill kid.

They could have saved the victims and the kid.


53 posted on 01/10/2011 7:31:42 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: higgmeister

I know a family with a problem son, a son engaging in drug abuse who keeps getting DUI’s. Their life is a living hell. The son knows he has his parents wrapped around his fingers and he’s like, keep kissing my butt or I’ll get into more trouble and they’ll blame you.


54 posted on 01/10/2011 7:32:27 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: yldstrk
What makes you think they are in "searing agony?" You have no evidence of that. The fact that they blubbered to their neighbors? Whom they apparently barely knew? BFD. I've seen worse than that after a loss in high school football.
55 posted on 01/10/2011 7:32:29 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: is_is

Bernie Goldberg was talking about it today on BOR..and I had heard earlier that the police had located an alter in his backyard with a skull and a tent


56 posted on 01/10/2011 7:32:58 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: camerongood210

The gun was a Glock 19 9mm semi-automatic. I read that it held 31 rounds. He did try to reload but some of the people there stopped him.


57 posted on 01/10/2011 7:33:06 PM PST by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: sport

Most damning, he immediately knew what he had done was wrong and tried to flee prosecution. He’s screwed.


58 posted on 01/10/2011 7:33:11 PM PST by naturalized
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To: NoLibZone

You are living in la la land and have no clue what you are talking about. I hope you get a chance to demonstrate your beliefs someday so you can see what it is like.


59 posted on 01/10/2011 7:33:52 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: camerongood210

It was a Glock-19.

It is unclear so far as to how many times he was able to replace the magazine.

It is also unclear if he had an extended magazine.

What has been reported, is that he was stopped while trying to insert another magazine into the pistol.


60 posted on 01/10/2011 7:34:55 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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