The six dead innocents of the AZ shooting(How do we know the judge was not the principal target?)

american thinker ^ | 1/8/11 | rick moran

[bestintxas]

Michelle Malkin has the grim list of innocent victims who have died as a result of wounds received during the AZ shootings yesterday.

Not receiving half the attention accorded to Rep. Giffords, is the tragic death of federal judge John Roll who, unrelated to the shooting by the madman Loughner, received numerous death threats for some of his immigration rulings:

John. M. Roll, the federal judge killed Saturday in the Tucson shooting that critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), has been at the center of the state's complicated political battle over immigration. In February 2009, Roll received hundreds of threats after he allowed a lawsuit filed by illegal immigrants against a rancher to go forward. "They cursed him out, threatened to kill his family, said they'd come and take care of him. They really wanted him dead," a law enforcement official told The Washington Post in May 2009.

Threats against federal judges and prosecutors nationwide have been soaring in recent years. There is no indication he was the gunman's target, and witness accounts describe the shooter as firing at Giffords first.

U.S. marshals put Roll, who was appointed to the federal bench by President George H.W. Bush in 1991, under 24-hour protection for about a month. They guarded his home in a secluded area just outside Tucson, screening his mail and escorting him to court, to the gym and even to Mass.

[yldstrk]

No you are right Diana in Wis and what they aren’t telling is plenty, in fact most.

[spokeshave]

"According to the judge’s family, he had gone to early mass and decided ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT to stop by and see Giffords-

Maybe he was being stalked.

[EmilyGeiger]

One of the victims, Stoddard, died while covering and protecting his wife.. it was reported in the Christian Chronicle. His wife was shot as well, but when the shooting started he placed her on the ground and rolled on top of her, and took a bullet in the head while covering her. The shooter should be immediately executed, period.

[bestintxas]

“Maybe he was being stalked. “

That is just what I was wondering.

To me, killing a federal judge is a much bigger thing than the attempted shooting of a congressperson.

a federal judge is trying felons everyday and deserves a far greater protection as a result than a person who(while not belittling a congressman) is simply offering opinions on law. does not have felons chasing them constantly.

also, federal judges are chosen for LIFE, so there is a much longer period of time they are under scrutiny. killers can come from something the judge did 25 years ago.

[Finny]

You're "tired in Virginia," and I'm tired of timid sheep bahh-ing "you're a wacky conspiracy theorist!" at those whose common sense tells them the story they're being told by "news" reporters stinks like a lie.

This shooter -- a youngster, barely in his earliest 20s -- was so GOOD at shooting that -- armed with only ONE pistol! -- he managed to HIT 19 moving targets, killing SIX of them, on a lark! The idea that this could happen to an amateur who had no training and experience in shooting is for sheep and ostriches.

Now, I don't know how many FReepers shoot at steel targets with semi-autos, but to hit 19 targets in short order under pressure, and hitting six of them fatally, is a feat that would take some practice. Even in a crowded and confined space -- and in this instance, it seems likely that the instant the first shot was fired, people were moving and scrambling as fast as they could to get away, dispersing rapidly -- the idea that an untrained or solitary kid was able to shoot that lethally and that accurately ...

... only the stupidest fools write off sense for fear of being called a "conspiracy theorist." Only the stupidest fool cavalierly writes off the possiblity of conspiracy in a political and social climate like we have in the U.S. today.

[ridesthemiles]

Also, John Roberts said the country lost a great judge (or something like that). If John Roberts said that, then the media must be quietly celebrating his death.””

IF John Roberts said that, he & his friends need to know more about the $32 million lawsuit this judge declared could move forward in the courts.

Fox needs to re-assess if they really want Roberts.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

“I hope Rush, Beck and others on our side come out swinging tomorrow. Enough is enough!”

Agree & BUMP!