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1 posted on 01/06/2011 9:22:59 PM PST by presidio9
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There is no such thing as "birthright" citizenship.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

-14th Amendment US Constitution
40 posted on 01/06/2011 11:21:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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America used to have a newspaper with this same name.

I wonder what happened to it.


41 posted on 01/06/2011 11:50:00 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Damn it, Jim! I'm a doctor - not a Community Organizer!")
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Yeah, like we could have never picked our own fruit and mowed our own grass.


42 posted on 01/07/2011 12:04:31 AM PST by Bullish
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You cannot revoke something that did not exist to begin with. It has been a fraud conducted on the American citizens by government, and the communists at the chamber of commerce to destroy the damn country and install their socialist utopia.
43 posted on 01/07/2011 12:18:31 AM PST by org.whodat
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Whew.
Speechless.


44 posted on 01/07/2011 12:41:37 AM PST by Lancey Howard (...er, postless.)
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...The U.S. owes more, not less, to Mexico and its immigrants than it does to other nations.

Why? Because the U.S. has treated Mexico in ways that it has treated no other nation, creating potent incentives for Mexicans to move north.

Bad policy demands more bad policy?

46 posted on 01/07/2011 1:00:33 AM PST by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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this post needs a barf alert


47 posted on 01/07/2011 1:03:15 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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Irrational drivel.

But there was ONE line I found interesting as it (possibly) confirms my own observations.

The one about Mexicans comprising 60% of the illegal’s in the U.S.
I want the other 40% deported too, no matter Where they are from or what “Colour” they might be.
No exceptions.

Pass AZ type immigration enforcement, and ask EVERYONE who has “contact” with the police about their immigration status.
Maybe that way we can detect and kick out more of that other 40%!

I will tolerate the umbrage of having MY own citizenship questioned if it leads to deportation of illegals from all countries and of any “race”.


49 posted on 01/07/2011 1:14:46 AM PST by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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http://www.polisci.upenn.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=73

Look who wrote this garbage. A professor sitting in his ivory tower. He doesn’t suffer at all from illegal immigration. Plus Mexico gets the lion’s share of our legal immigration slots

The pious hypocrites of the elites. Whatever would we do without them?


50 posted on 01/07/2011 1:24:57 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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Where’s the Barf Alert?????


51 posted on 01/07/2011 2:23:03 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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But few could provide land titles to American courts, so most lost their lands and had to work for U.S.-owned farms, mines and industries.

Umm, if they didn't have title to the lands, then they weren't "their lands," were they?

53 posted on 01/07/2011 2:37:59 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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"If the U.S. apportioned more of its overall legal immigration admissions to Mexicans, it would do far more to reduce its numbers of illegal aliens than any change in birthright citizenship would."

Rubbish!!!!!!! Which one of those Mexicans who would come illegally, would decide not to because "the U.S. apportioned more of its overall legal immigration admissions to Mexicans?"

That logic is saying that the solution to Mexican illegals is to keep increasing the number of Mexicans allowed until every Mexican who wants to come is allowed to come. That is merely legalizing open borders or advance legalization of all illegals.

But, after all, what the professor really wants to do is surrender American land and sovereignty to Mexico.

As for his history, the professor should save his Big Lie presentation for his uninformed and pliable students. To whom he can conceal such inconvenient facts as the following:

■ In 1821 - before Mexican independence - the Spanish Governor of Mexico granted Moses Austin a charter to settle Texas. He did this because the Mexico population lacked the right-stuff to settle and tame a wild and sparsely populated territory.

■ The story did not “begin in 1846,… when the U.S. provoked a war”, as the professor falsely claims. In 1836, Texas won its independence from Mexico - the same way Mexico won its independence from Spain. In 1845, the US granted Texas statehood.

■ The inhabiters of California were Spaniards ("Californios") who did not want to be part of the independent Mexico and openly rebelled. The Mexican presence there was not as settlers but troops sent to squelch the rebellion, collect taxes and seize church owned land. (The land was returned to the Church by President Lincoln.)

Mexico owes very its existence to the US. Mexicans lost their independence to France after Emperor Napoleon III's armed invasion and occupation during the US Civil War. The "Second Mexican Empire" (as the French rulers called it) only ended when after the Civil War the US sent troops to the border and asserted the Monroe Doctrine; the French troops were withdrawn; and the puppet government, forced to hold power without French troops, fell.

59 posted on 01/07/2011 3:30:14 AM PST by drpix
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Horse crap.
Round up ALL illegals and send them back to from what ever crap hole they came from.


62 posted on 01/07/2011 3:46:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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More than a quarter of Mexico’s population has already fled north. The lowest class; now the middle class, what’s left of it, is heading our way. The oligarchy will simply move to Switzerland and live off drug money if too many of their relatives are murdered. Meanwhile those here illegally take jobs away from legal Americans, and they’re destroying our culture, mores, and values, not to mention the healthcare system. Hispanics culturally do not value education. (Nor do many blacks.) They’ve done studies nationwide and found that more than 50% of Hispanic kids drop out of school, and it’s not because bilingual education isn’t pervasive. Their parents don’t make them stay in school, and they can’t see past the end of their noses.

Democrats will continue to push govt. provided care from cradle to grave, including housing, walking around money, food, whatever. Socialism from the nanny state writ large. So why should they think working for a living is sensible? The work ethic and American values run contrary to socialism. It’s like stemming the tide. Sure, let ‘em all in, and give more. Then Guatemala, Costa Rica and points south, not to mention Africa will claim they’re discriminated against. If they’d stay home and apply the work ethic, integrity, and mores that are the foundation of America to their own countries, the world would be a far better place.


63 posted on 01/07/2011 4:02:01 AM PST by hershey
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Another Anti-American Bigotry piece.

The border sealed, all the Illegal Aliens deported...anything else is Amnesty.

I am tired of seeing Americans losing their jobs to third world Mexicans, tired of seeing Americans subisdize Illegal Alien Mexicans through our tax dollars...and tired of Americans being criminalized by Illegal Alien racist Mexicans.


64 posted on 01/07/2011 4:02:15 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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“Because the U.S. has treated Mexico in ways that it has treated no other nation, creating potent incentives for Mexicans to move north.”

In other words, America is a nice place to live and Mexico isn’t.


69 posted on 01/07/2011 4:53:08 AM PST by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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A jeeez, right out of the gate this morning. What a load.


70 posted on 01/07/2011 4:56:32 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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"U.S. owes Mexicans more, not less"

What a steaming pile.

74 posted on 01/07/2011 6:33:51 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Perhaps we should amend our immigration laws to make them as tough as Mexican immigration law.


75 posted on 01/07/2011 6:40:23 AM PST by windsorknot
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The US has propped-up Mexico for the last century. Manufacturing, cash (through drug trade) and infrastructure assistance, particularly in the oil industry.

The lazy population and corrupt government blew it.


79 posted on 01/07/2011 7:51:21 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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