[AuntB]

"It is mind-boggling that these advocates continue to use such tactics at press events – (for the record, I’ve experienced similar tactics while serving as a panelist at Harvard, as have my colleagues at a number of other forums throughout the country). The amnesty advocates fail to realize that their lack of professionalism and civility is one reason why the American public does not take them seriously. One would think that after a decade's-worth of failed attempts at the DREAM Act and similar measures, the amnesty crowd would change their methods. But it seems that their New Year's resolution was to become even more confrontational and more hostile to the idea of open debate."

[no-to-illegals]

idea of open debate

AuntB...I came to the conclusion, long ago, the
open borders crowd will not engage in open debate,
for the open borders crowd knows there is no
excuse for breaking established law. The law sometimes
fails the law abiding, yet the law is much more
adapt at not failing those who are determined to
break the law. By this thought, civility is always
an impediment to the lawless, whereas civility for
the law abiding is also sometimes an impediment.
It is my opinion that the law was never intended
to be fair or just, simply the aim was and is to
generate order, as best as may be attained. For
a law breaker to engage in debate is to
force the law breaker to acknowledge the existence
of the law. A law breaker cannot debate after having
acknowledged the existence of the law, for at that point
the law breaker has stated a contradiction. The same
does not apply to a law abiding person.
This is my humble opinion.

To expand on one point....
It is my opinion that the law was never intended
to be fair or just, simply the aim was and is to
generate order, as best as may be attained.
Once the law abiding witness special treatment for
those who break the law and the law breakers are rewarded,
all order or control begins to break down. This, regrettably,
is what is being witnessed by our generation. To
continue on this path is not a foundation on which
society can continue to stand for continuing generations.
While I do not know for certain, and I am only stating an opinion,
I have to choose to believe the law with all its flaws
is still the basis of a continuing civilization, and
without equal justice, under that group of God's laws
and man's laws , mankind will disintegrate into chaos.
Regrettably, this may be the intent of many who now hold
the reins of power...imho

[Dante3]

bttt

[blackie]

"But it seems that their New Year's resolution was to become even more confrontational and more hostile to the idea of open debate."

They will never learn!