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Dispute over chores led to fatal shooting in Holmes County
Times Reporter New Philadelphia, Ohio ^ | 5Jan11

Posted on 01/05/2011 5:24:51 AM PST by Rannug

BIG PRAIRIE – Shannon Anderson had no idea what her 10-year-old neighbor wanted when he burst through the door of her mobile home Sunday evening.

Moments later, he blurted out the shocking news: He had killed his mom

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: matricide

1 posted on 01/05/2011 5:24:52 AM PST by Rannug
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To: Rannug
in September 2007, he hit an elementary school principal with a dust pan while being escorted to a time out
Maybe he needed a little more discipline than a "time out" a little earlier in his sad young life?
2 posted on 01/05/2011 5:29:55 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Rannug

Sad. It’s not the video games. Not the bus driver or the principal. It’s just sad.


3 posted on 01/05/2011 5:32:17 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Rannug

So, you’re Shane Hoover?


4 posted on 01/05/2011 5:32:37 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic. Monthly Donors Welcome.)
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To: Rannug

Two in the hat. Take care of the little demon now before he kills again.


5 posted on 01/05/2011 5:33:17 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: Rannug

When something like this happens, I always wonder what else “happened” to the child during his life. I guess I think there is more to the story than just a “kid being born bad”. Sad for the family.


6 posted on 01/05/2011 5:33:29 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Rannug

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the published title. Thanks.


7 posted on 01/05/2011 5:34:16 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Rannug
Someone's in the kitchen with Dinah.♪
Someone's layin' dead by the sto - oh - oh - ove.♪
Someone's in the kitchen with Di-nah,♪
And the smell is really hurtin' my nose.♫
8 posted on 01/05/2011 5:45:40 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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Shannon Anderson said she kept Joseph McVay at her home until authorities arrived. He calmed down after she gave him a Pepsi, but he hardly cried and didn’t seem to express any remorse, she said.

Nathaniel Anderson said McVay later asked him if he should have shot his mother with the shotgun instead of the rifle.

A budding little sociopath.

9 posted on 01/05/2011 6:02:37 AM PST by Pontiac
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10 posted on 01/05/2011 6:03:32 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: Pontiac

“Nathaniel Anderson said McVay later asked him if he should have shot his mother with the shotgun instead of the rifle”

“A budding little sociopath”

Yeah. I think he has passed the pulling-wings-off-of-flies stage.


11 posted on 01/05/2011 6:05:43 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: Rannug

No father.


12 posted on 01/05/2011 6:13:17 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: rickb308

They’ll put him away until he is an “adult” at 18 or 21 then let him out so he can do some real adult stuff and then he will go back into the system again.


13 posted on 01/05/2011 6:14:41 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Rannug

Sadly, some people are just born insane. I had a cousin like that. His parents went nuts trying to discipline and civilize him to no avail. No matter what they did or people who tried to help did he just enjoyed causing harm and destruction. Got arrested at 14 for auto theft and drug dealing in 1965. Arrested again at 15 for drug dealing and got one year in a Calif Youth Authority camp. He even got hooked up with Charles Manson for a while. Did two adult prison sentences for armed robbery. I’m certain that he also murdered a kid who broke his jaw while in a halfway house.

A real sweetheart. Haven’t seen or heard from him in more than a decade when he told me he was trying to fake his way onto California State Disabllilty for a phony back injury. Hope I never hear from him again.

But the point is that he was bad from day one and nothing anyone did was able to effect any improvement in his behavior. It’s not very common, but it happens.


14 posted on 01/05/2011 6:46:13 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: rickb308

It could mean that he doesn’t understand what the gun did to his mother.


15 posted on 01/05/2011 7:32:51 AM PST by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: Pontiac

“if he should have shot his mother with the shotgun instead of the rifle. “

It would have been safer, yeah. The bullet might have gone through a window and hurt someone.


16 posted on 01/05/2011 7:36:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Rannug

“the year before, McVay’s mother complained about a school bus driver disciplining her son”

BINGO!! Everyone is picking on momma’s baby


17 posted on 01/05/2011 7:38:55 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy; rickb308
It would have been safer, yeah. The bullet might have gone through a window and hurt someone.

If the shotgun were loaded with birdshot she would have had a good chance of surviving.

On the other hand if the shotgun was load with 00 shot she had less chance of surviving. If the shotgun was loaded with deer slugs she had essentially no chance of surviving.

But on a humorous note I imagine the Nathaniel Anderson responding to the question with “Well if you had made it to level 5 you could have picked up the sticky grenade, snuck up behind her and blown her up.”

18 posted on 01/05/2011 8:31:08 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: donna
It could mean that he doesn’t understand what the gun did to his mother.

I think it is pretty clear from the article that he understood that his mother was dead and that he had done the deed.

All I can gather from the question is; that he was asking the older boy is did he use the most effective tool available.

I surmise this from his favorite games which happen to be ‘first person shooter’ games that offer the player a choice of weapons which have particular effectiveness against different foes.

19 posted on 01/05/2011 8:48:22 AM PST by Pontiac
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While ten year olds don’t often become angry, they don’t handle their angry feelings well. With parents, Ten will stomp off to his room or cry and yell in anger at the parent. With peers and siblings, Ten can be quite explosive and even violent. She will look for ways to get even with others whom she perceives to have treated her badly.

Ten approaches concepts of God, death, and morality in a matter-of-fact manner. The ten year old is not concerned about death. Most believe in God, but see church attendance as either an accepted family ritual or a disliked chore. Ten isn’t guided by his conscience as much as by what parents and teachers tell him is right or wrong. But, he wants to avoid doing wrong and has a strong concept of fairness.
http://childparenting.about.com/od/yourtenyearold/a/tenyearoldhome_2.htm


20 posted on 01/05/2011 9:59:12 PM PST by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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