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To: Notary Sojac; wagglebee; trisham; DJ MacWoW; caww; little jeremiah

It’s not entitlements when it’s your money.

If the government was considering this an *investment* then they owe the money to the people they took it from, with interest.

It’s not denial. Denial is not realizing that the government TOOK people’s money with the promise that they would get it back and then abdicating on that promise.

Entitlement is welfare and food stamps and medicare and medicaid. Stuff that no one invested (even by force) in but that is just handed out for those too lazy to work for a living. Entitlement mentality is them thinking that someone OWES them all that just because they’re alive breathing the same air as you and I.

It is not entitlement to expect a promised return on an investment.


563 posted on 01/03/2011 8:24:51 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It was never an investment, nor could anyone who did the least bit of research ever consider it an investment.

The first recipients never paid any Social Security tax. How is that an investment program?

It is a socialist retirement program. People pay taxes to the government, and the government pays out welfare payments. There is no connection between the two actions.


567 posted on 01/03/2011 8:30:17 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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And as it stands, the return on Social Security (when employee and employer contributious are factored in) SUCKS compared to what a person could easily expect to get if it was privately owned like a 401K.
570 posted on 01/03/2011 8:33:18 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom

>It is not entitlement to expect a promised return on an investment.

Ok, then please explain where that money is going to magically come from. You do realize that all government income is from current taxpayers right?

Social Security is not an investment. It has no principle. It is a Ponzi scheme rigged out to perform a Welfare function.

Oh, and I hate to break it to you, but Medicare is funded in the same way as Social Security, with a payroll tax. It’s just even more insolvent.

Though I admit that it’s a positive sign you’re making progress in that you see Medicaid as an entitlement. It gives me hope that you’ll figure out Social Security eventually as well.


572 posted on 01/03/2011 8:34:30 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: metmom

Well said, metmom.


579 posted on 01/03/2011 8:50:07 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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