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To: metmom

It was never an investment, nor could anyone who did the least bit of research ever consider it an investment.

The first recipients never paid any Social Security tax. How is that an investment program?

It is a socialist retirement program. People pay taxes to the government, and the government pays out welfare payments. There is no connection between the two actions.


567 posted on 01/03/2011 8:30:17 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: B Knotts
What surprises me the most is how much people believe they have contributed over the years. It isn't as much as they think. For someone retiring 01 Jan 2011, the maximum they could have contributed is $130,169.69. Add that to the equal amount their employer paid and you get $278,339.38. These max contributions will garner them the max benefit, currently at $2346 per month. By way of comparison, the maximum they could have contributed to the system in 1964 was $174... for the whole year ($14.50 per month).

That means they will run through everything they and their employer paid into the system in just under 10 years ($281,520). Live longer than that and they are ‘taking’ someone else's money.

For reference, I got the OASDI earnings contribution cap by year here:
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/cbb.html

And the tax rates by year here:
http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/taxRates.html

It was never a sustainable system. At 3.3 workers for every retiree (and that ratio is still headed in the wrong direction), and more economic trouble looking likely in the future, something has to change.

597 posted on 01/03/2011 9:11:41 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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