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Space weather: Forecasters keep eye on looming 'Solar Max'
Space Daily ^ | Dec 29th, 2010

Posted on 01/01/2011 8:57:03 PM PST by TaraP

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To: TaraP
What has to be remembered is that this sort of story is really all about saving the life of the "global warming" meme. Even dimly educated people have heard that periods of low sunspot activity correlate with colder global temperatures. Sunspot activity is and has remained at levels lower than seen at any time in recorded history.

What this is intended to convey is "yes, folks, the level of sunspots has been very low, and the weather has been REALLY COLD the last couple of years, but ANY DAY NOW, the sun will "stoke up again" and we'll be back into "global warming".

41 posted on 01/02/2011 7:23:10 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Cisco Nix; maine-iac7; mazda77
At least part of the rest of the story on the 1859 CME (italics/bolding mine):

"This coming Tuesday marks the 150th anniversary of a unique astronomical event that has repercussions even today. On the morning of September 1st, 1859, Astronomer Richard Carrington found his routine of carefully drawing and recording the transit times of sunspot groups disrupted by an odd phenomenon emerging on the face of the Sun. The day dawned unusually sunny over his private observatory in Redhill, England, and 33 year old Carrington had taken to his usual daily task of sketching sunspot groups projected onto a screen in a darkened room. The scope used was a 2-meter long brass refractor, (scopes were often measured by focal length instead of aperture in those days) and it yielded an 11-inch diameter projected image of the Sun. the Sun itself had been extremely active most of the year, and there was plenty to draw. Carrington was not, however, ready for what appeared on the disk of the Sun at about 11:18 AM local: two kidney shaped beads of light appeared to stab upwards from an enormous sunspot group. This group was active, and as the chronometer ticked away the time in the background, Carrington realized he was witness to a rare event; what we now know as a white-light solar flare. He rushed back into the house to nab a witness, but as they returned not more than sixty seconds later, the flare was largely gone. After a span of five minutes, the flare had covered an estimated 35,000 miles over the face of the Sun and had faded entirely. Carrington had managed to do a hurried sketch and ran the numbers in his head; the material in the flare had to be moving at an astonishing 420,000 miles an hour!"

Remembering the Super Flare of 1859.

42 posted on 01/02/2011 7:36:01 AM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: allmost; pallis; MAINE-IAC; unkus; familyop; joe fonebone; Wonder Warthog

If you read the article, it is not about hot and cold temperatures on earth. It is not about climate change or global warming.

It is about potential damage to electrical and electronic equipment caused by solar activity.


43 posted on 01/02/2011 7:38:18 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: C210N

the material in the flare had to be moving at an astonishing 420,000 miles an hour!”

wow.. 420KPH .. I reckun that’d sizzle grandma’s whiskers for shur if she wasn’t wearing her bonnet..


44 posted on 01/02/2011 12:12:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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uhh,, 420MPH . wow.


45 posted on 01/02/2011 12:14:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
"If you read the article, it is not about hot and cold temperatures on earth. It is not about climate change or global warming.

It is about potential damage to electrical and electronic equipment caused by solar activity.
"

Oh. Okay. Never mind. ;-)


46 posted on 01/02/2011 1:39:01 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: TaraP
But two centuries of observing sunspots -- dark, relatively cool marks on the solar face linked to mighty magnetic forces -- have revealed that our star follows a roughly 11-year cycle of behaviour.
The latest cycle began in 1996 and for reasons which are unclear has taken longer than expected to end.

The same thing has happened in the past, and when the lull is prolonged, we have a Solar Minimum. There was one in the early middle ages, the Maunder Minimum in the mid 1600s, and the Dalton Minimum in the mid-to-late 1700s. It's no coincidence that the Global Warming extremists always talk about the "warmest temperatures in 150 years", because it was then that the Earth was coming out of the Dalton Minimum, and just about any temperature would look warmer by comparison!

Instead of spending money on the silly premise that anything humans do can change, or even AFFECT the climate, we need to be thinking about how humans can adapt to the changes in the climate, be that a warming trend, like we had in the 90s, or a cooling trend, like we're having right now.

47 posted on 01/02/2011 2:59:39 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Right Wing Assault

what...you mean read the WHOLE thing before commenting?????


48 posted on 01/02/2011 3:00:18 PM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: maine-iac7

If what we’ve experienced is a true sunspot minimum, hubby and I think it should be named the Hansen-Gore Minimum, just to point out the cupidity of those two men!


49 posted on 01/02/2011 3:02:40 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: TaraP
The current solar cycle is working out to be fairly anemic compared to earlier cycles, and is looking like it may be more like the Dalton Minimum.


50 posted on 01/02/2011 3:06:07 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I read it, and apologize for deviating into the fickle subject of temperature, but it’s cold, and when I think of sun spots, solar flares and plasma discharges soaring through space towards Earth, warmth comes to mind.


51 posted on 01/02/2011 5:23:20 PM PST by pallis
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To: usconservative

Thank you order is in.


52 posted on 01/03/2011 5:31:42 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: TaraP
KC8OUX here. I'm wintering in Anza, CA, to get away from Ohio snow. However, the snow has followed me. We're having alternate snow and rain here, at 4500 ft. altitude, as the snow line moves up and down. Right now we're inside the cloud, and fluffy flakes are coming down. I went to town earlier this morning, about 500 ft. lower, and it was raining there.
53 posted on 01/03/2011 1:14:49 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: pallis

No problem. It’s just that some people see one word in a title and instantly know the whole story. Sometimes it works, other times you wonder what the heck the poster is talking about. There were 3 threads in an hour yesterday morning like that.


54 posted on 01/03/2011 1:40:25 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: TaraP
Many people may be surprised to learn that the Sun, rather than burn with faultless consistency, goes through moments of calm and tempest.

Anyone who took 8th grade Science should not be surprised.

But I'm a boomer. What the hell do I know?

55 posted on 01/03/2011 1:48:17 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: PapaBear3625
The linked-to chart was updated in the last day or so, and the predicted pick once again has been adjusted lower. It's now below 60, which puts it roughly in Dalton Minimum territory.

If the pattern repeats, be prepared for winters that are colder and more snowy than prior averages over the next few years, with impacts on fuel prices (due to increased heating demands) and food prices (due to reduced growing seasons).

56 posted on 01/04/2011 8:30:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625
"and the predicted pick" = "and the predicted peak"
57 posted on 01/04/2011 8:33:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

I’ve been an amateur radio operator for just over 2 years. I want those sun spots!!!!

I’m not holding my breath. The spots are always looming, never dooming.


58 posted on 01/04/2011 8:42:13 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: TaraP

The trouble with too many scientists is they don’t say “we think” something will happen. They state things like they are ironclad facts, and then when they don’t turn out, their credibility gets shot.


59 posted on 01/04/2011 8:51:57 AM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: PapaBear3625

And it’s instructive that the middle line, which shows the actual number of sunspots, has been moving straight to the right, rather than curving up, since early 2008. NASA predicted that the number of sunspots would start increasing at the end of 2007, because that’s what had happened for the previous 10 cycles, or so. They had to keep moving that ‘trending up’ line to the right, every month that the sunspots didn’t return. We’ve gone almost two years without any appreciable amount of sunspots, and though this new cycle has begun, the number of sunspots has been anemic, at best. That ‘trending up’ line, might stay more level, than not, for a while, in which case, this could mean a Solar Minimum.


60 posted on 01/04/2011 11:17:35 AM PST by SuziQ
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