Posted on 12/31/2010 5:41:55 AM PST by FS11
President Obama Hawaii's new governor says he'll straighten it all out. Who's he kidding?
Mr. Abercrombie is wasting his time. The truth is no match for the birthers' zealotry, the depth of their twisted contempt for the president, their ceaseless efforts over the past two years to delegitimize him because down deep they believe Mr. Obama or anyone of his racial makeup does not deserve to be president of the United States.
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BO is NOT constitutionally qualified to be POTUS regardless of where he was born because by his own admission his dad was a British/Kenyan citizen. SCOTUS has never defined the term “natural born citizen” to any category of citizenship other than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens of the United States of America.
There is a clear, concise and definitive statement in Vattel's Law of Nations which was the principal legal treatise used by the Founding Fathers in writing the Constitution.
"The natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens... it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
The Venus Case, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)
In the Venus Case, Justice Livingston, who wrote the unanimous decision, quoted the entire §212 paragraph from the French edition of Vattel’s Law of Nations:
Vattel…is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says:
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. “The inhabitants, as distinguished from citizens, are strangers who are permitted to settle and stay in the country. Bound by their residence to the society, they are subject to the laws of the state while they reside there, and they are obliged to defend it…
Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)
Sixteen years later the Supreme Court…does not cite Vattel per se, but cites the principle of citizenship contained in his definition of a “natural born citizen”:
If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings…
Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
In this case the Justice Gray cites the decision in Minor vs. Happersett:
At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
Liberals running scared. They want it to go away because they know it is true.
OMG. Please, please, please. ‘Hartford Courant’, go play your race card elsewhere.
If they really want to paint the birthers as fringe kooks, then RELEASE THE LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PUBLIC INSPECTION.
If they do so and it passes scrutiny, then the issue is done.
I’m curious to see how Obama handles the Missouri law requiring proof of eligiblity to be placed on the state ballot as a candidate for POTUS. He cannot win re-election without Missouri.
I’d like to see Ohio, Florida and Texas pass similar laws before 2012.
The liberals just insist on making it about race. The truth is the anyone who can't produce a birth certificate shouldn't be president. Doesn't matter if he's half black or lime green.
I’m not a birther either but I think proof that a president is a natural born citizen should be publicly available.
First step in the recovery process is to admit you are wrong.
Barack Obama is not eligible to the President of the United States.
Repeat.
The “prez” is a dirtbag, lying, traitorous SOB for whom I hold ZERO regard though I have a great deal of regard for the Rule of Law, documentary proof of claims, and simple logic.
None of which interest the typical liberal or MSM rag in the least.
Do not need to sell me. If he had it he would of released it. He does not and is not a legit President.
They hate the Constitution anyway. They consider themselves to be enlightened ‘Citizens of the World’. What a bunch of Dopes.
Prove it...release the truth! Cost, $10!
Sounds like another excuse peddling dhim, look out for alot of prominent scumbag dhims to come crawling out of the woodwork and claim that comrade zero won’t run again because pubbie controlled states won’t allow him on the ballot due to bc questions and just ole fashioned racism, clearing the way for a clintoon redux. My prediction for ‘11
down deep they believe Mr. Obama or anyone of his racial makeup
The liberals just insist on making it about race. The truth is the anyone who can’t produce a birth certificate shouldn’t be president. Doesn’t matter if he’s half black or lime green.
6 posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 7:47:26 AM by PistolPaknMama
As far as I am concerned, not only is it not about race it is not about place of birth. It would not matter if he was the illegitimate son of Prince Charles and Stanley Ann, he would still have been born a British citizen (subject) and be disqualified to be POTUS. That is precisely the reason that the Founding Fathers wrote the Natural Born Citizen clause of the Constitution to prevent foreign creatures like BO from becoming President of the United States.
Good for you! For my part, I don't like such "labels," either.
I could care less [sic!] if his cronie Abercrombie releases BO's BC or not.
I believe that I understand your logic, but I also believe that it is nonetheless in the best interests of the Conservative cause to keep the pressure up on as many fronts simultaneously as possible. Further, if the publication of Obama's long-form Certificate of Birth should serve in any way to discredit, embarrass, or otherwise weaken Obama, then I'm all for it.
Regards,
If they do so and it passes scrutiny, then the issue is done.
How could it possibly pass scrutiny if his father is, who he says he is. The question of the hour. To best remain unanswered, hence the present situation, unlikely to change anytime soon.
You get my point WITA. Why do you think they have not taken this very simple step?
The “prez” is a dirtbag, lying, traitorous SOB for whom I hold ZERO regard though I have a great deal of regard for the Rule of Law, documentary proof of claims, and simple logic.
None of which interest the typical liberal or MSM rag in the least.
9 posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 7:49:22 AM by Scanian
When I say that Obama is not an American it has nothing to do with where he was born and everything to do with his constant putting down of America and his thinking process is more that of a European Socialist than of an American.
There is nothing wrong or twisted with my contempt for Obama. It is very STRAIGHT FORWARD
He is a lying, immoral and corrupt piece of crap. He is a traitor to the US Military.
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