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New Self-Defense Weapons For Seniors
kpho.com ^ | 29 December, 2010 | NA

Posted on 12/31/2010 5:22:56 AM PST by marktwain

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- The holiday season can hold many hazards for senior citizens, including crime and scams. But one that many don’t think about is falling in crowded malls or on slippery streets.

Now there's a new way for seniors to stay safe, healthy and fit.

It's called a cane fu class. It's kind of like kung fu but it teaches seniors to use their canes and walking sticks as martial arts weapons.

Cane fu also helps folks improve their balance and overall fitness levels.

The class is part of the Nifty After Fifty program, the first fitness program that caters exclusively to seniors.

This class is at the CareMore Care Center in Scottsdale.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; banglist; cane; canefu; constitution
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I have been an advocate of walking sticks and stick fighting for decades. Sticks are particularily effective against dogs. They offer a non lethal alternative when lethal force is not justified. In Arizona, now that we have Constitutional Carry and knife preemption, people carrying a cane can carry an effective sword cane if they want a little more "edge". Here is one offered by Cold Steel:

http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/sword-cane.html

1 posted on 12/31/2010 5:23:00 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

How about Dobermans?


2 posted on 12/31/2010 5:39:22 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: marktwain

Do you know where I can find a guide to which states ban a sword cane?


3 posted on 12/31/2010 5:41:39 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: marktwain

Pretty neat. I’d used to have my grandfather’s cane w/ a piercing knife/dagger in it. Don’t know what happened to it. But..

IMO 2 scenarios that require immediate lethal force are.
Burglar breaking into an occupied home. They must expect to use force.
A jackal attacking an elderly person. Even knocking an elderly to the ground can be a death sentence ,ie. broken hip.

Here in NC I can’t legally carry my ASP.


4 posted on 12/31/2010 5:41:59 AM PST by Vinnie
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Here’s a handy thing to have for if you are too young to carry a walking stick without raising eyebrows...

http://shop.tacticalthings.com/product_info.php?products_id=372

the advantage it has is that it is not considered a weapon, so you can literally carry it any time, anywhere without prohibition or legal consequence...


5 posted on 12/31/2010 5:47:08 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Vinnie

Aren’t Sword canes classed as AOW by tthe ATF and require a $5 permit?


6 posted on 12/31/2010 5:54:54 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: marktwain
They offer a non lethal alternative when lethal force is not justified.

Sorry, but if you have to defend yourself, lethal force is justified.

Your scenario is a liberal canard

7 posted on 12/31/2010 5:55:40 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: marktwain
Just like when the English outlawed weapons for the Irish then people used sheleighlies.

“Saints presarve us,
ya wouldn't be takin’ away an old man's walkin’ stick would ya now?”

8 posted on 12/31/2010 6:00:55 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: barb-tex
“Aren’t Sword canes classed as AOW by tthe ATF and require a $5 permit?”

I believe that you are thinking of cane guns. AFAIK, ATF does not regulate knives or swords.

9 posted on 12/31/2010 6:09:35 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I love walking sticks, stick fighting from the few moves I know is pretty darn effective. I would like the odds of a good walking stick to jab with against a knife. You don’t need a sword in the thing it is a pretty wicked weapon in and of itself, it can even be a lethal weapon if you jab someone in the windpipe with a bayonet type lunge. Even the Brits would have trouble enforcing a ban on canes and walking sticks even though they have banned pocket knives. Somebody trying to attack somebody walking with a cane deserves whatever they get.


10 posted on 12/31/2010 6:09:35 AM PST by dog breath
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In the medieval european martial arts schools, the staff was often called the “prince of weapons”. Once a student had first studied longsword, sword and buckler, sword and dagger and unarmed combat, often one of the last weapons he would learn was the long and short staffs.

It’s really a remarkable weapon. Useful and inexpensive, it was the universal weapon that anybody could get and carry. Done properly, even a smaller and weaker person could possibly defend themselves against stronger opponents with swords and daggers. It’s chief advantage is ~reach~. Even a short (6ft) staff gives some good standoff range. A long staff (8ft or so) even more so.


11 posted on 12/31/2010 6:09:49 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: marktwain

A well trained person with a hardwood cane can do a world of hurt on a perp.


12 posted on 12/31/2010 6:09:49 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: marktwain

I prefer using Kimber-FU

Hitting someone with your cane will probably just piss them off.


13 posted on 12/31/2010 6:14:07 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Life is hardly more than a fraction of a second. Such a little time to prepare oneself for eternity!)
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To: marktwain

No one needs a cane. ;-) If they outlaw canes, only outlaws will have canes. Do they still make the canes with swords in them? Pistols?


14 posted on 12/31/2010 6:16:50 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Erik Latranyi
There is a differentiation in the law between lethal force and non lethal force. The more that you know about how the law makes the differentiation, the better protected you are.

There are a lot of gray areas, and much depends on the knowledge and mindset of the person defending themselves. If you can make a credible case that you, as a reasonable person, believed that you were in danger of death or severe bodily injury, you can make a case for the use of deadly force to defend yourself.

If you cannot make that case, but still can show that you were under physical attack, you can use physical force that is not deadly force to defend yourself. The law varies from state to state in particulars, but I believe the above is correct in general.

An example of physical defense against a non lethal attack might be the restraint of an eighty year old woman who was slapping him by a 30 year old, vigorous man.

15 posted on 12/31/2010 6:17:31 AM PST by marktwain
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To: jimtorr

I would imagine that a sword cane would fall under the knife laws for most places. They’re probably illegal in most jurisdictions. But then, strictly speaking, most knives are illegal in most jurisdictions, they’re simply not enforced evenly.


16 posted on 12/31/2010 6:19:11 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: barb-tex

i don’t know.


17 posted on 12/31/2010 6:23:01 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Ramius

In Aikido it’s called a “Jo”.tAside from the usual strikes, there are some from an at rest position that looks harmless but is really an agressive posture, try to grab it and
you learn what,”the short end of the stick” really
means, one can even throw opponents...farther.


18 posted on 12/31/2010 6:25:39 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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This old-timer was pretty good with his walking stick.
19 posted on 12/31/2010 6:28:20 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: marktwain

Wasn’t there a song from the 70’s?

Everybody was Cane Fu Fighting?


20 posted on 12/31/2010 6:28:37 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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