Posted on 12/30/2010 5:05:52 AM PST by Lakeshark
Speculative fun from the Boston Phoenix. All along I’ve been assuming that Iowa would be the de facto social con primary (or rather, caucus) and New Hampshire the de facto centrist primary, with the winners to meet down the road in South Carolina, Nevada, and Florida. But what if New Hampshire’s now a lot redder than we think? What if the Iowa winner rolls into Concord a week or two later with tea partiers ready to rock and blows the centrist frontrunner out of the water?
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One more time ~ there’s NO center.
2012 won’t look like 2010 in NH unless they actually crack down on the sort of bussed in and crossover voting that went on in 2008. This time around there won’t be much need for Dems to vote in their own primary, they well could be motivated to much in the GOP race.
With the legislature in veto-proof Republican hands, now is the time to pass the voter ID bill that Jean Shaheen, the Abortion Queen vetoed when she was the governor.
Why does a New England state get to pick our candidate?
Oh well.......
It doesn’t.
Exactly. Either you favor socialism or not.
The comment starts with “social con” and the illogically shifts to “tea party” and implies they are the same.
Most tea party types support socially conservative issues and most social conservatives support the tea party. But their emphasis is quite different ... and their chances of winning in November are quite different. The tea party (including the social cons in it) emphasise “Taxed Enough Already” economics. That has proven to be a winner.
Emphasizing the social issues is a loser in most areas. And in most areas where it is not a loser, it wins by a smaller margin than the economic tea party agenda.
Note that winning or losing elections has little to do with being right or wrong; But a lot to do with reality. And note that the fact that candidates don’t win on social issues does not mean the voters are not social conservative. Repeatedly voters vote social conservative in a referendum and at the same time vote for a social liberal candidate. The reasons are several. Social issues make most people uncomfortable. Social issues are stressful.
People vote for the candidate who makes them comfortable and less stressful. Most often the liberals are able to package their position in a way that makes them less stressful and the conservative candidate more stressful. Conseratives fall into this trap and escalate the stress.
But also, more people vote their perceived economic interest and the liberal is able to win that perception when the social conservatives concede the economic debate to focus on the social issues.
I’ll vote for Romney over Huckabee.
Not that I’d be all that excited about Romney, but even next to McCain, I’d go with Romney.
Huckabee = creepy, self-interested sleaze.
It’s true, Romney doesn’t have any reasonable excuse for the healthcare mess on Massachusetts. However, we are talking Massachusetts, and when Romney went with the healthcare bill in MA it was one thing. Once the corrupt Mass legislature got ahold of it, it most likely morphed into quite another.
As far as the primary — New Hampshire has a big problem when it comes to voting. It has same day registration, and an open primary. The same day registration makes it vulnerable to voter fraud, and it would be foolish to think it hasn’t happened in NH already. The crossover voting is another thing that distorts voting results.
Time to get rid of both.
unless some major changes are made very soon, the 2012 GOP Primaries are just an open invitation for phony moderates to jump in and pull a reverse-Operation Chaos on us.
New hampshire will show a Romney victory (yuck), as Unions bus thousands of reank and file members up from Boston to same day register and vote for Romney because they know a Romney nomination guarantees four more years of Obama.
Unless and until New Hampshire closes the primary and ends same-day registration, the winner there will always be whomever the dems want to be the winner.
We’ve got many college and university students that vote at least twice; once in their home towns by absentee and again in their college towns.
There were some reports that students in some college cities were voting in more than one precinct.
People who do this are Traitors and should be punished severely.
However, they are never even investigated, let alone punished.
Yep.
We haven’t had enough elections to provide sufficient data to support your claims regarding the relative value of TEA Party positions and social conservative positions.
Please educate us ~ otherwise, they sound alike, and both like to wear nice suits.
As I stated, I’m not that keen on Romney.
But tell me how Romney and Obama are alike.
My point isn’t that I would like to vote for Romney, but that I would if the choice was between Romney and Huckabee or even McCain.
McCain has proven he is incapable of leadership, other than inconsistent outbursts when its opportune to get his face on the tube. McCain loves to not only reach across the isle, he put the opponents cheerleader outfits on and roots for the other side — we can’t afford such weakness. And the last election showed Huckabee is his willing accomplice.
New Hampshire is full of economic conservatives who don't give a damn about social issues like right to life or keeping marriage traditional and logical. It is tailor made for a RINO like McCain or Mitt.
Iowa is full of social conservatives who are addicted to government pork like ethanol. It is tailor-made for a RINO like Huck.
Neither one is particularly loyal to the same candidates in the fall and people are fools to fawn over them with far more attention than they deserve.
New Hampshire is full of economic conservatives who don't give a damn about social issues like right to life or keeping marriage traditional and logical. It is tailor made for a RINO like McCain or Mitt.
Iowa is full of social conservatives who are addicted to government pork like ethanol. It is tailor-made for a RINO like Huck.
Neither one is particularly loyal to the same candidates in the fall and people are fools to fawn over them with far more attention than they deserve.
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