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Hawaii Governor Revives Birth Certificate Wars Because He Wants to End the Controversy. Uhu
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Posted on 12/28/2010 5:56:06 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

Thankfully, TV and the blogosphere haven’t suffered any major Birther eruptions in a while, but Hawaii’s new Democratic governor, Neil Abercrombie, is poised to reignite the dumbest of Barack Obama’s scandals…in the name of putting a long-overdue stop to it. Abercrombie intends to settle the question of Obama’s citizenship status once and for all by releasing more previously-undisclosed birth records:

[T]he governor made clear in the CNN interview that he will push forward on this matter regardless of whether the White House is privately worried that it may bring more attention to the so-called “birthers” who continue to deny that Obama was born in America – despite evidence showing that he was.

“We haven’t had any of those discussions,” Abercrombie said of the White House. “It’s a matter of principle with me. I knew his mom and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.”

Asked if one option is to ask Obama to waive his privacy rights so that a copy of his actual birth certificate can be released publicly, Abercrombie cut off a reporter’s question.

“No, no, no – it’s not up to the president,” he said. “It has nothing to do with the president. It has to do with the people of Hawaii who love him, people who love his mom and dad. It has to do with respect the office of the president is entitled to. And it has to do with respect that every single person’s mother and father are entitled to.”

All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii and is constitutionally eligible for the presidency.

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KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; certifigate; hi; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Michael van der Galien
Abercrombie intends to settle the question of Obama’s citizenship status once and for all by releasing more previously-undisclosed birth records:

Will it tell us who his daddy is?

Malcolm X

21 posted on 12/28/2010 6:19:28 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Michael van der Galien

Aloha Ahkbar


22 posted on 12/28/2010 6:19:57 AM PST by PGalt (life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians)
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To: spokeshave

“It doesn’t matter one iota where the 0bama-dummy was born...his father was not a US citizen.

So he takes the nationality of his father.”

I am loathe to defend Obama, and won’t do so here, but....

MY father was (and is not) a US citizen. And I was born and have lived my entire life in the USA. Does that mean i’m not eligible (constitutionally) to be President?


23 posted on 12/28/2010 6:24:27 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: AlexW
Neil Abercrombie's memory ain't a long-form BC!

He bamboozled millions... gave us the old 'okee doke.'

Clueless Obama-1sm

Where's the original Certificate of Live Birth, Mr. President? And where's the old 1980's passport you traveled on?

24 posted on 12/28/2010 6:29:45 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: spokeshave

It doesn’t matter one iota where the 0bama-dummy was born...his father was not a US citizen.
So he takes the nationality of his father.

9 posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:05:03 AM by spokeshave


Exactly.

BO is NOT constitutionally qualified to be POTUS regardless of where he was born because by his own admission his dad was a British/Kenyan citizen.

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html


25 posted on 12/28/2010 6:35:54 AM PST by FS11
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To: Michael van der Galien
The media is trying to say that we're all pretty much convinced that obama is a NBC, because the fervor about it has died down some.

But it probably has some to do with lawyers getting fined $20,000 for bringing it to court or Army Colonels getting jailed for questioning it.

We are under seige by this marxist administration, the economy is in ruins and he is on the verge of silencing all critics by controlling the net and the media.

The timing and contrivance of this obama visit to alohaland is way too convenient to be happenstance. I'd like to know who contributed to Abercrombies campaign and if a promise to quell the NBC controversy was the payoff.

For two years this president has played skin the rabbit with his background documentation and now all of a sudden that captain disclosure is elected governor, it starts to unfold?

I'm sure his media transcribers and his chia pets will buy into it, but it reads like a dime novel.
26 posted on 12/28/2010 6:37:00 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: bigdaddy45

These points have been debated here adfinitum....The year Obama was born the law required the parents to be American citizens or one parent an American citizen for a certain number of years.

The discrepancy is in regards to his mother being so young.

I don’t know why this can’t be reviewed because technically he may not be a citizen because of these discrepancies.

BUT, I think most of us here, would agree that if there were undeniable proof that the man was born on American soil, we’d drop all this.

I don’t think he was born in Hawaii. Why is it, that not one person remembers the birth. No doctor is listed. No nurses. No hospital records.

More important are the documents there after of his schooling.

There is nothing for researchers and biographers to look at.


27 posted on 12/28/2010 6:37:00 AM PST by nikos1121 (Praying for the big -24 today and -27 by the end of the month.)
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To: Portcall24

I think Grandma Sarah will have sumpin to say about a fake. The kenyan certificate is real and posted on internet, if abercommie disputes it, produce a hawaiian version.


28 posted on 12/28/2010 6:39:27 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: bigdaddy45

“MY father was (and is not) a US citizen. And I was born and have lived my entire life in the USA. Does that mean i’m not eligible (constitutionally) to be President?”

I’m sorry to tell you that you are not eligible to be POTUS. You are a “born citizen” but not a “natural born citizen”. A natural born citizen is a child born in the US of two US citizen parents.

Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen under any definition and he was well aware of it at the time he decided to make a run for President. Somehow he was able to bully every member of Congress into silence on the matter.


29 posted on 12/28/2010 6:43:46 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: nikos1121

Thanks for your answer.

I know its not a popular opinion here, but I happen to believe Obama WAS born in Hawaii for one reason only. Both Hawaiian newspapers posted birth announcements shortly after his birth.

Now of course, if he WAS born in Kenya (or anywhere else), his father could have called a newspaper and had it put it in. But there is zero motive for such an action that I can see.


30 posted on 12/28/2010 6:44:06 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: nikos1121
The “Official” BC lists Obama, S.r as the father, Jr. can not be a NBC.

The “Official” BC lists a black American as Obama’s father, Obama is shown to lie and be a fraud.

The “Official” BC lists Obama father as “unknown”, Obama is shown to lie and be a fraud.

This entire issue is a lose/lose issue for Bambi!

31 posted on 12/28/2010 6:45:57 AM PST by WellyP
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Care to show me a link to this assertion and where its been affirmed in US case law?

Under this definition Obama is the SECOND illegitimate US President. Chester Arthur’s father was born in Ireland and was an Irish citizen at his son’s birth.


32 posted on 12/28/2010 6:46:29 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: nikos1121

BUT, I think most of us here, would agree that if there were undeniable proof that the man was born on American soil, we’d drop all this.

27 posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:37:00 AM by nikos1121


Speak for yourself. BO’s place of birth is irrelevant.

BO is NOT constitutionally qualified to be POTUS regardless of where he was born because by his own admission his dad was a British/Kenyan citizen.

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html


33 posted on 12/28/2010 6:48:00 AM PST by FS11
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To: bigdaddy45
MY father was (and is not) a US citizen.

Your father gave up his US Citizenship?

34 posted on 12/28/2010 6:49:31 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: bigdaddy45
Yes, in fact it does.

The founders defined NBC as being born of US Citizens. Not born of a US citizen. No other country can claim an NBC as their own. Kenya claims Obama, and if you became president, some country would also claim you.

I am an NBC, but my daughter is not, and she was born here too. So your in good company. But neither of you can be president ... legally.

35 posted on 12/28/2010 6:49:45 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No, he was not born here and never became a citizen.


36 posted on 12/28/2010 6:51:08 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Michael van der Galien

Then why did Pelosi submit a different campaign eligibility document for Hawaii to sign? The other 49 states were given a document that was completely different. Or maybe it was 56 if you took Barry’s geography class.


37 posted on 12/28/2010 6:52:42 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Michael van der Galien

I believe he was probably born in Hawaii, but was never issued a SSN and gave up his American citizenship to become a citizen of Indonesia.


38 posted on 12/28/2010 7:03:14 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Michael van der Galien

I don’t believe his parents were ever married, either. The facts will conflict with what was published in his biography.


39 posted on 12/28/2010 7:04:12 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: bigdaddy45

“Under this definition Obama is the SECOND illegitimate US President. Chester Arthur’s father was born in Ireland and was an Irish citizen at his son’s birth.”

That is correct and Chester Arthur burned almost all of his personal papers in an attempt to hide the fact that he was not eligible. Does that sound familiar?


40 posted on 12/28/2010 7:15:55 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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