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Antarctic IceCube observatory to hunt dark matter (NSF study 'In Search of Neutrinos')
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 12/23/10 | AFP

Posted on 12/23/2010 12:42:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WELLINGTON (AFP) – An extraordinary underground observatory for subatomic particles has been completed in a huge cube of ice one kilometre on each side deep under the South Pole, researchers said.

Building the IceCube, the world's largest neutrino observatory, has taken a gruelling decade of work in the Antarctic tundra and will help scientists study space particles in the search for dark matter, invisible material that makes up most of the Universe's mass.

The observatory, located 1,400 metres underground near the US Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, cost more than 270 million dollars, according to the US National Science Foundation (NSF).

The cube is a network of 5,160 optical sensors, each about the size of a basketball, which have been suspended on cables in 86 holes bored into the ice with a specially-designed hot-water drill.

NSF said the final sensor was installed in the cube, which is one kilometre (0.62 miles) long in each direction, on December 18. Once in place they will be forever embedded in the permafrost as the drill holes fill with ice.

The point of the exercise is to study neutrinos, subatomic particles that travel at close to the speed of light but are so small they can pass through solid matter without colliding with any molecules.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antarctic; darkmatter; icecube; nsf; observatory

1 posted on 12/23/2010 12:42:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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A handout picture taken on December 18 released by the US National Science Foundation (NSF) shows the final Digital Optical Module (DOM) which was to be deployed in the IceCube array, the world's largest neutrino observatory, built under the Antarctic tundra near the US Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station. (AFP/Robert Schwarz)


2 posted on 12/23/2010 12:43:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
270 million dollars borrowed from the Chinese.

Future historians, assuming there are any, will refer to these as "The Crazy Years".

3 posted on 12/23/2010 12:45:13 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: NormsRevenge

But, but....that is what the Large Hadron Collider was supposed to do.


4 posted on 12/23/2010 12:46:26 PM PST by ully2 (ully)
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To: Lurker

Everett Dirksen would have gone ‘Postal’.. or not. ;-)


5 posted on 12/23/2010 12:46:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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NormsRevenge


When I was a kid I used to know how to do this on my Etch A Sketch.

HAVE A COOL YULE!


6 posted on 12/23/2010 12:52:00 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: NormsRevenge
"What happens if neutrinos have mass?"- Bob Seger

Let's find out.

7 posted on 12/23/2010 12:52:42 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: NormsRevenge
I`ve got some Dark Matter crudded all over my dishes-

Is it waste water from a neutrino reactor?

8 posted on 12/23/2010 12:54:19 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: theDentist

these are little fellars,, tough to catch,, like illegals.

ya need really sensitive detectors and then what do ya do when ya do catch ‘em. ;-)

they got all kinds of experiments trying to figure out what the heck is happening subatomically.. is the universe and beyond a stringy thing or what?


9 posted on 12/23/2010 12:57:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: ully2
But, but....that is what the Large Hadron Collider was supposed to do.

This is detecting neutrinos, not mashing various together at extreme speeds. Previous detectors have usually been in pools in abandoned mines, rather small experiments that rarely detect neutrinos. The reason is that you need enough mass above to block all the other particles so that only neutrinos (of which almost all pass right through the whole Earth) can get through. But you also need enough detectors spread far enough through enough consistent matter so that they can detect a neutrino collision with the surrounding matter. This thing is expected to detect a neutrino every 20 minutes, which is astounding compared to previous detectors.

But in the end if we're going to do it at all, this is far cheaper than it would have cost to do it anywhere else on the planet. There are no problems with heat and water tables or unknown densities and hardness. All they had to do was (very simplified) shoot hot water down into the ice, pump it and the melted ice out, drop in the strings, pour water back in, and let it freeze back up.

10 posted on 12/23/2010 1:17:43 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: NormsRevenge

And folks said I was crazy when I thought
someone was watching me!

11 posted on 12/23/2010 1:18:18 PM PST by Hunton Peck (Life, Liberty, Property, and the means to protect them, are what it's about.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m not sure I buy this “Dark Matter” thing. I’m thinking that there’s something really basic about gravity that we don’t understand.


12 posted on 12/23/2010 1:18:29 PM PST by wolfpat (Veni. Vidi. Veneer: I came. I saw. I made plywood.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I recall first time I read of such a setup, the scientists started getting alarms of hundreds of these little critters detected all at once. Naturally they began pouring thru the logs and systems to find out what broke, when they got a call about a star that had gone SuperNova. That was the first I’d ever heard of Neutrinos.


13 posted on 12/23/2010 1:18:55 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

Quasars, gamma ray bursts, quarks .. black holes.. cool stuff, putting it in ice makes sense I guess. :-)


14 posted on 12/23/2010 1:45:23 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sad story, this whole thing.

We are all given to understand that this ice will all be melted in just the next few years.


15 posted on 12/23/2010 1:57:40 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: wolfpat

We tend to forget how early we are in scientific understanding. It was only about a hundred years ago that we found out atoms were made out of other particles.


16 posted on 12/23/2010 1:59:43 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: NormsRevenge
Quasars, gamma ray bursts, quarks .. black holes.. cool stuff, putting it in ice makes sense I guess.

Exactly. And perhaps a little Rum or Schnapps...

17 posted on 12/23/2010 2:42:06 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: NormsRevenge
The observatory, located 1,400 metres underground near the US Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, cost more than 270 million dollars, according to the US National Science Foundation (NSF).

For God's sake....WHY?

18 posted on 12/23/2010 2:48:29 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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A sensor descends down a hole in the ice as part of the final season of IceCube. (Photo: NSF/B. Gudbjartsson)

The IceCube team poses in front of the deployment tower following completion of the IceCube Neutrino Detector. (Photo NSF/C.Carpenter)

19 posted on 12/23/2010 5:49:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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