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Another Judge Seems Poised To Declare ObamaCare Mandate Unconstitutional
American Spectator ^ | 12/17/10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 12/19/2010 11:05:03 AM PST by freespirited

This has been a busy week when it comes to legal challenges to the national health care law. On Monday, U.S. District Court Judge Henry Hudson ruled that the law's requirement to purchase health insurance was unconstitional... And on Thursday, another district court judge, Roger Vinson, heard oral arguments in a separate case launched by Florida and 19 other states.

While a judge's posture in oral arguments isn't an ironclad indication of how he intends to vote, several news accounts of the hearing suggested Vinson -- a Reagan appointee -- was extremely skeptical of the administration's argument that the Commerce Clause gave the federal government the authority to regulate inactivity.

"It would be a giant leap for the Supreme Court to say that a decision to buy or not to buy is tantamount to activity," Vinson said, according to the Wall Street Journal. The judge noted that when he was in law school he was uninsured when his first son was born and paid out of pocket.

Vinson called the mandate a "giant expansion" of federal regulatory power, the New York Times reported, saying, "People have always exercised the freedom to choose whether to buy or not buy a commercial product."

There was even some suggestion that Vinson could go a step further than the decision earlier this week. Hudson rejected Virginia's call to strike down the entire health care law if the mandate is deemed unconstitutional, but according to both accounts, Vinson seemed more sympathetic to striking down the whole law, arguing that its elements were interconnected,... “It’s also been compared to a Rube Goldberg invention,” the Times quoted him as saying.

For opponents of ObamaCare, clearly the more rulings against the mandate -- and the more chances to win at the appellate level -- the better.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; rogervinson
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I dont want to get my hopes up, but this does sound promising.
1 posted on 12/19/2010 11:05:10 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Better yet, declare Hussein unconstitutional


2 posted on 12/19/2010 11:06:28 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: freespirited
Vinson will rule in our favor, but how long will it take to get to SCOTUS.

You know that holder and osamaobama will try to run the clock and hope that a conservative on the court dies and osamaobama gets to replace him.

3 posted on 12/19/2010 11:09:04 AM PST by USS Alaska
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To: freespirited

I may have missed it, but has anyone researched and posted which President appointed the judges hearing all of the ObamaCare cases?

I believe the judge in the Arizona federal cases was a Clinton appointee.


4 posted on 12/19/2010 11:09:52 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: bgill

If you want socialism...go to where it is.


5 posted on 12/19/2010 11:11:04 AM PST by magna carta
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To: freespirited

Agree with you. Hopeful, proceed with caution.


6 posted on 12/19/2010 11:11:04 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: bgill

Agreed. I am glad to see states and people fighting the communists and the islamic

This contrasts with some FR’ers who may be DU shills attacking LTC Lakin and “birthers.” I guess they are happy their boy repealed “don’t ask don’t tell” for their corn cobbin. Those who attack LTC Lakin sicken me.


7 posted on 12/19/2010 11:13:25 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: K-oneTexas

I think Dubya appointed Henry Hudson, and per the article, Vinson is a Reagan appointee.

At least one of the judges who ruled in favor of RATcare was a Clinton appointee.


8 posted on 12/19/2010 11:15:24 AM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: USS Alaska
If Vinson rules in our favor and puts all of Obamacare on hold, then how long it takes to get to the SCOTUS doesn't really matter.
9 posted on 12/19/2010 11:19:35 AM PST by JPG (A new sheriff is on her way and she's ready to cleanup Dodge.)
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To: freespirited

Thanks, that was what I was trying to figure out. Unlike Kagen and probably Sotomayor was a Dem appointee and will rule solely on the party line.

It is just interesting to see how some sitting judges rule on the LAW and others rule on the PARTYline.


10 posted on 12/19/2010 11:21:17 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: freespirited

From his questions, it is clear that Judge Vinson is skeptical of Obamacare’s compliance with the “necessary and proper” clause of Article I Section 8.

Of course, to begin with, there is no enumerated federal power regarding federal control of healthcare, but we drove off that bridge a long time ago.

A recent column on this matter mentions Constitutionl Scholar and Law Professor Randy Barnett. He has this to say about that which is “necessary and proper.” http://www.randybarnett.com/necessary.htm


11 posted on 12/19/2010 11:21:33 AM PST by Jacquerie (Get out of my face and get back in the closet.)
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To: USS Alaska
Vinson will rule in our favor, but how long will it take to get to SCOTUS.

You know that holder and osamaobama will try to run the clock and hope that a conservative on the court dies and osamaobama gets to replace him.

From January forward, Obamacare will be under attack from two fronts: judicially and congressionally.

At least two cases will be on the way thru the judicial system where district judges -- and, subsequently, their circuits -- will have ruled the law unconstitutional. Perhaps, the Florida judge will also take advantage of the absence of a severability clause to issue an injunction against any further orders or actions that would cause the states to have to spend any money on this abomination.

And the House will be mounting an attack on two fronts. First, they will vote to repeal the act -- in its entirety. This could even pass the new Senate -- but will almost certainly be vetoed by Obama.

But, on the second front, the new House will almost certainly prevail. In the FY 2011 budget, which they will now write, the GOP majority won't appropriate a single dollar for the implementation of Obamacare.

The Senate will have little choice to pass on it. And the President will be confronted with a choice of signing the budget...or shutting down the government.

By the end of 2011, Obamacare will be a smoking rubble...

All the GOP majority in the House needs to have is the courage of our convictions...

12 posted on 12/19/2010 11:32:20 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: freespirited

This sounds very encouraging.

Thanks for posting the entire article. Why did you flag it as an excerpt?


13 posted on 12/19/2010 11:38:02 AM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: freespirited

Good news all around but they need to get this moving along to SCOTUS as fast as possible. I guess it has to go to the Circuit Court of Appeals first then SCOTUS.


14 posted on 12/19/2010 11:44:27 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: upchuck

Posts from the American Spectator have to be excerpted (max 300 words) and linked per FR rules. This one was actually 325 words. Instead of just lopping off the last 25, I deleted words within the paragraphs that didnt really add to the meaning.


15 posted on 12/19/2010 11:45:27 AM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It could be fast-tracked directly to SCOTUS but Holder is opposed to that. Cuccinelli explains here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121605951.html


16 posted on 12/19/2010 11:49:44 AM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: freespirited

May Barky go on vacation to Hawaii and never come back.


17 posted on 12/19/2010 11:58:43 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: freespirited

Yes it could be fast tracked but Holder and Barry know they will lose so they will drag it through Circuit Appeals Court first.


18 posted on 12/19/2010 12:05:42 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The Fourth Circuit here in Virginia is considered on the conservative side. So I’m still more optimistic than not.


19 posted on 12/19/2010 12:46:56 PM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
May Barky go on vacation to Hawaii and never come back.

Whazzup?

Is he going to "find" his long lost birth certificate? If so, maybe he ought to vacation in Mombasa?

20 posted on 12/19/2010 1:03:32 PM PST by Gritty (No other U.S. President (but Obama) would have had the courage to say what he says-Fidel Castro)
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