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Dreamliner's woes pile up
The Seattle Times ^ | December 18, 2010 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 12/19/2010 8:27:52 AM PST by buzzer

As Boeing prepares to announce yet another delay for the 787 Dreamliner — at least three months, possibly six or more — the crucial jet program is in even worse shape than it appears. The problems go well beyond the latest setback, an in-flight electrical fire last month that has grounded the test planes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 787; aerospace; boeing; dreamliner
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It seems that boeing won't have enough time in the near future to build the new tanker. They gotta fix this thing first.
1 posted on 12/19/2010 8:27:56 AM PST by buzzer
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To: buzzer

For those knowledgeable, a question:

Were these problems birthed on Mulally’s watch
or did they occur after he left for Ford?


2 posted on 12/19/2010 8:32:04 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: buzzer

...and they also have the 737NG thingy hanging over their heads due to the possibility that it is flying under specs it doesn’t meet due to a sub-contractor hand-making parts instead of machine-making. And it is possible that sub-contractor was using illegal alien labor as well.

=8-)


3 posted on 12/19/2010 8:38:30 AM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: nascarnation

I think it all started when MD bought Boeing with Boeings money.


4 posted on 12/19/2010 8:38:30 AM PST by buzzer
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To: buzzer
Is the Boeing tanker project based on the 787? (I'm too lazy to look).

And if so, did Boeing know it and try to bribe the Air Force into accepting what is increasingly beginning to appear to be a pile of crap?

5 posted on 12/19/2010 8:39:20 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: buzzer

There’s only two kinds of plastic, .........


6 posted on 12/19/2010 8:39:44 AM PST by Paladin2
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"With the Dreamliner nearly three years overdue — and a postponement of the mid-February target for first delivery expected to be announced by Christmas"
7 posted on 12/19/2010 8:45:08 AM PST by Paladin2
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It's not as if Boeing doesn't have lots of experience in building commercial airliners...so, what the heck is going on here?
8 posted on 12/19/2010 8:48:59 AM PST by JPG (A new sheriff is on her way and she's ready to cleanup Dodge.)
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To: 1rudeboy

“Is the Boeing tanker project based on the 787?”
No it’s based on the vintage 767. But lazy B will need every engineer they can get to get the 787 into service.

“And if so, did Boeing know it and try to bribe the Air Force into accepting what is increasingly beginning to appear to be a pile of crap?”
I don’t have evidence, but my belive is, that: Who ever will loose the current tanker competiton had at least a couple of good friends at the DOD and/or at the USAF to mix up the paperstuff, so they have a good reason to protest.


9 posted on 12/19/2010 8:49:16 AM PST by buzzer
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To: nascarnation

Sheese, it seems our aeronautical industries are going down the chutes to sewerland. With the stupid problems with the F-22 and the ongoing idiocy with the JSF we now have a design and manufacturing force equal to a “chinese fire drill”.

The once unequaled industry has fallen to inept engineering and the worldwide outsourcing theme.


10 posted on 12/19/2010 8:50:53 AM PST by biff
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Looks like Boeing's computer models work about as well as the IPCC's. Hope they get it ironed out.
11 posted on 12/19/2010 8:51:56 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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“Looks like Boeing’s computer models work about as well as the IPCC’s. Hope they get it ironed out.”
Who ? Boeing or the treehuggers ?!? :-)


12 posted on 12/19/2010 8:56:21 AM PST by buzzer
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To: buzzer

No mention of the labor trouble from the local press.


13 posted on 12/19/2010 8:58:22 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: 1rudeboy
Is the Boeing tanker project based on the 787? (I'm too lazy to look).

And if so, did Boeing know it and try to bribe the Air Force into accepting what is increasingly beginning to appear to be a pile of crap?

No and yes. :)

14 posted on 12/19/2010 8:59:15 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Computers make cool Power-Point presentations for the suits to show each other. Actual design of an airplane? Maybe humans should do it. The DC-3, designed by humans nearly 80 years ago is still flying: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-3


15 posted on 12/19/2010 8:59:29 AM PST by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: buzzer

someone needs to be fired for such a disgraceful delay


16 posted on 12/19/2010 9:06:21 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: nascarnation

It all stems from the obstacles the labor union placed in the path:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_46/b4155034784354.htm


17 posted on 12/19/2010 9:07:13 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: buzzer

One of the main reasons that Boeing has had the problems is the way they conceived how they were going to build the plane to begin with.
Why in the Hell would you want to have different locations laid out all over the world planning and designing, then try and assemble the plane the same way?
It would have made more sense and cost less money to have had the whole operation in one place and to communicate in one language.
Whatever person or persons thought up this Logistics Nightmare should be fired.


18 posted on 12/19/2010 9:07:42 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: duckworth

You’re right. Assuming Boeing ever gets the 787 into mainstream service, and assuming the DHS and TSA ever back off their idiocy enough that I decide to fly again... I wouldn’t fly on a 787 for oh, 5 to 10 years - until they get the bugs ironed out.


19 posted on 12/19/2010 9:11:25 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: duckworth

The B-52 is still apparently a functional weapon delivery system after 50 or 60 years. Amazing.


20 posted on 12/19/2010 9:15:15 AM PST by Paladin2
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