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To: Abin Sur

Actually you did not. God is not a liar or a fraud. He does not make promises and not keep them. Try praying for a week, a month, a year. An hour is not long enough to even get warmed up.
Only after I surrendered my entire life to Him was Christ able to accept my penitence and save me from my soul sickness. Since that time many years ago I have been growing in Him, sometimes in fits and starts. I continue to sin but know that His forgiveness is real.
The knowledge of His world is constantly opening to me. I find scripture especially rich in understanding because I am able to read through the eyes of a child who is saved by the source of all that is good and holy.
I do not believe it is possible to be saved by the incantation of a few words or a brief, if fervent, prayer. Total and absolute surrender is required.


52 posted on 12/18/2010 9:26:02 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
Actually you did not.

Ah, a variation of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy at work. I couldn't have really been sincere and surrendered to Christ, because it didn't "take".

I'll leave it to the Christians on this board: Is the statement "I do not believe it is possible to be saved by the incantation of a few words or a brief, if fervent, prayer" Biblically accurate? Just curious...

54 posted on 12/18/2010 9:33:55 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Amos the Prophet; Abin Sur
Actually you did not

Petitio principii.

58 posted on 12/18/2010 9:40:02 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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