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Military Should ‘Expressly Prohibit’ Heterosexuals from Using Separate Showers from Homosexuals...
CNSNews ^ | December 18, 2010 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 12/18/2010 3:11:51 PM PST by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

Submarines will be the worst.

And Fragging on a sub is tough to do.


81 posted on 12/18/2010 4:21:04 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Iron Munro

Yes, Anita Bryant was right, she told it like she saw it.

This whole LGBT agenda and the way they’ve forced themselves on society gives new meaning to the old saying, “give an inch and they’ll take a mile.” Very sad!


82 posted on 12/18/2010 4:23:27 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

just what an army in combat needs to be dealing with.

This is beyond ignorant...it is grossly immoral.


83 posted on 12/18/2010 4:29:13 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: jazusamo
The working group’s Nov. 30 report—“Report of the Comprehensive Review of the Issues Associated with a Repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’”--concluded that permitting men to use separate showers, bathrooms and bunking facilities from women of the opposite gender would “stigmatize” the women and be “reminiscent of ‘separate but equal’ facilities for blacks prior to the 1960s.” Just replaced 4 words, and it makes just as much sense. But oddly, if you tried to argue this, these people would certainly tell you that forcing women to shower with the men would stigmatize the women, and push them out of the military.

Of course, forcing homosexuals to shower with heterosexuals doesn't have the same effect on the homosexuals, because the homosexuals know the men aren't leering at them, like the homosexuals are leering at the men. It's a one-way attraction, which makes it precisely the kind of unbalanced interaction that "don't ask, don't tell" minimized.

So now, not only to homosexuals get to openly declare their sexual proclivities, but the heterosexuals will be forced to parade naked in front of the homosexuals. The gays will say that this is only fair -- but where are those same people arguing that the female soldiers should be forced to parade naked in front of the men?

84 posted on 12/18/2010 4:31:45 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Arlis
Yes, and following this logic, all males and females in the service should be forced to shower together as well!

Correct.

85 posted on 12/18/2010 4:32:45 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: jazusamo
delenda est...
86 posted on 12/18/2010 4:33:05 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jazusamo

Yuck, gag, SPIT.

It’s discrimination to separate? BS

It’s discrimination to let some peter-gazer gaze away.


87 posted on 12/18/2010 4:33:43 PM PST by bigheadfred (STAND IN THE CLOSET AND SCREAM WITH ME)
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To: xzins

I fully agree, but then it has been said that “...stupid is as stupid does” and they are proving this beyond any doubt in my mind.


88 posted on 12/18/2010 4:35:45 PM PST by Vernon
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To: xzins
This is beyond ignorant...it is grossly immoral.

Well said! Unfortunately the ignorant and immoral people in the chain of command from Obama to Gates to Mullen do not give a whit, just as do not the Senators and Representatives that shoved this down the peoples throats.

89 posted on 12/18/2010 4:40:26 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

So at the base gym, is there going to be 4 shower rooms? The 2 extra being one for lesbians and the other for gay men? Or do they throw the lesbians and gay males together?

And 4 public restrooms too?

Inquiring minds want to know.


90 posted on 12/18/2010 4:40:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"No, there won’t always be an England. It will fag itself to death while Moose limbs take over."

The army came out in style this weekend when it launched a recruitment drive aimed at tempting more gays, lesbians, transvestites and even transsexuals into the ranks.

Style, indeed, the old Poofter Army Drill of Monty Python comes true ... funny, though, they don't give any information on how many are serving or how many or what type of problems there have beeen.

91 posted on 12/18/2010 4:41:52 PM PST by jessduntno (Care what the Left thinks of you? "Their opinion of me and my policies is irrelevant." - Dick Cheney)
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To: jazusamo

They created another victim class that will run crying to the CO every time they get their fellings hurt. I am glad I no longer have to serve in the military our politicians have made it a joke.


92 posted on 12/18/2010 4:43:29 PM PST by Americanexpat
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To: jazusamo

They don’t have to build seperate facilities. Gay men can shower with women and lesbians can shower with men. The same with bunks.


93 posted on 12/18/2010 4:46:23 PM PST by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: xzins; jazusamo

They’ve just taken CF to a whole new level.


94 posted on 12/18/2010 4:48:23 PM PST by bigheadfred (STAND IN THE CLOSET AND SCREAM WITH ME)
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To: rbg81

Agreed. This is insane.


95 posted on 12/18/2010 4:49:22 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
So can we assume there will not be separate facilities for men and women then? I don’t see any difference. (... and frankly I’d rather be watched in the shower by a hetero woman than some homo fag.)

Roger that!

The equal protection clause should ensure the visual stimulation of one and all. /sarc

96 posted on 12/18/2010 4:51:05 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: SubMareener

First, the language of the amendment is confusing; it was clearly slapped together, so it’s not readily apparent what it does.

It does clearly state that “NO BENEFITS” go with this bill: “Benefits- Nothing in this section, or the amendments made by this section, shall be construed to require the furnishing of benefits in violation of section 7 of title 1, United States Code (relating to the definitions of `marriage’ and `spouse’ and referred to as the `Defense of Marriage Act’).”

It also clearly states that nobody can SUE because of this bill: “No Private Cause of Action- Nothing in this section, or the amendments made by this section, shall be construed to create a private cause of action.”

The actions it takes relative to codes appears to be only two:

1: TITLE 10- Upon the effective date established by subsection (b), chapter 37 of title 10, United States Code, is amended (A) by striking section 654; and (B) in the table of sections at the beginning of such chapter, by striking the item relating to section 654.

2: CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Upon the effective date established by subsection (b), section 571 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1994 (10 U.S.C. 654 note) is amended by striking subsections (b), (c), and (d).

Title 10 section 654 must be the section that says no gays in the military, and section 571 of 1994 authorization is clearly the “Don’t ask, Don’t Tell” provision.

So it certainly doesn’t appear that they did anything about the UCMJ. Although that is not governed by law, right?

Normally, it wouldn’t matter since the supreme court struck down sodomy laws as unconstitutional. BUT, the court has ruled that the military doesn’t have to follow the same constitutional restrictions, so the sodomy rules could well still apply.

Buy my guess is Obama will simply re-write that part of the code, so unless someone passes a law dictating that section of the code, we are probably out of luck.


97 posted on 12/18/2010 4:51:35 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: McGavin999
They don’t have to build seperate facilities. Gay men can shower with women and lesbians can shower with men. The same with bunks.

But what if they are bi-sexual?

98 posted on 12/18/2010 4:52:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: McGavin999

That is not their plan.


99 posted on 12/18/2010 4:52:26 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bigheadfred; jazusamo

They all think they’re so much smarter than the fly-over population.

But, why don’t they force males and females to use the same showers?

Would different equipment make that much difference if there weren’t attraction?

I walked into a unit shower in Germany years ago. It was late in the evening...10 PM or so....this was during my enlisted days.

And some freak must have just taken in Extenz. It grossed me out. I just turned and left. I assumed he’d been whupping up on his meat. I wasn’t gonna stay and ask.


100 posted on 12/18/2010 4:54:54 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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