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To: Jet Jaguar

Well, now we’ll see what happens. If a year from now, two years from now we see that there are problems, that unit cohesion is degraded, that recruitment or morale is down, that the effectiveness of the force is down, then it shouldn’t be that hard to get a new law put in place.

I mean if we start getting routed by the Taliban next year or in 2012 then I think the GOP won’t have that difficult a time changing the rules. To be honest, we haven’t exactly been kicking ass with the current law in place. And polling shows that the public largely supports this by well over 60%. Unfortunate, but true.

I don’t think there are that many gays in the military to begin with. Will this open the floodgates? I doubt it.

I’m at least willing to see what happens. Not every prediction of doom comes true.

In terms of long term impact, the DREAM Act and the START Treaty are much more important. If we get to the end of the session and we end up with with the tax rates extended, no DREAM Act, no START, but DADT is repealed, I’d say that’s about as good as we could expect given themakeup of the Congress. Come Jan 1 everything will change and the Dems won’t get anything.


142 posted on 12/18/2010 1:44:04 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
Long ago, I was a lowly E-3 on a waiting list for base housing. The rent where I was stationed was more than excessive.

Higher ranking service members joining the waiting list would take priority.

Now imagine Maj. Tom and and Lt. Mike getting priority over SSgt Lauren and SrA Jim.

Just one issue I see causing problems for the military.

168 posted on 12/18/2010 1:52:43 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (WE'RE SCREWED '08)
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To: jeltz25

You are correct there are not that many gays in the military, but the problem is that this is not about being openly gay. This was a route used to get into all other sorts of social acceptance and special treatment based on a sexual act.

60%+ of the country may know a gay person or have a gay family member. They see only the “PC” version of the gay lifestyle. When you look behind the curtain you will see a lifestyle that is revolting and anti-social, and that is not even the sex part. They are not right mentally!

Will it effect unit cohesion, hell yeah! Gays will naturally gravitate to eachother, which will cause problems because no matter what anyone says will cause sexual tensions. Does anyone think intimate relationships within a platoon or company will not have an effect?

I was just talking with my son about this, his response was, there ain’t no way an openly gay guy would be able to be part of our company. We would ALL be chaptered out!

This will not be the end of it. They gay lobby will push for hate speak, discrimination, bullying, special board for complaints, special “re-education”, quotas for promotion, housing, benefits, etc. From there it will go full bore for gay marriage. How can we be equal and have gay men and women DIE for our country yet not allow them to marry??????

This BS was just their foot in the door to a nightmare!!!


273 posted on 12/18/2010 3:10:01 PM PST by panthermom
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To: jeltz25

I just want to say one other thing about the 60% of civilians supporting this........I guarantee that yesterday most of those 60% were attending their office Christmas Party, shopping, were out to dinner or sitting in their safe homes. My son spent yesterday filling out paperwork on who will be his Pall Bearers at his funeral and who will escort his body back along with delivering his possessions to us. At 20 these are things he has to think about and these idiots in our Government are more worried if Tom gets to bring Steve to a freaking picnic!!!


275 posted on 12/18/2010 3:20:04 PM PST by panthermom
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