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Twenty Questions About Pornography. This Is A Test.
Right Side News ^ | December 18, 2010 | Phyllis Chesler

Posted on 12/18/2010 8:01:19 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: ansel12

It’s only “God, family, country” on FR until it isn’t.
It’s been that way a long time here.

This Stasi stuff just started happening recently, but even that is capriciously applied.

In every endeavor, hypocrisy will destroy your cause.


141 posted on 12/18/2010 10:15:02 AM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Non-coercion would mean the use of persuasion to get people to voluntarily stop.”

I presume you are in favour of government regulation? As far as I can see, there is nothing compelling a jurisdiction to permit the sale, distribution and operation of pornography should the people choose to bar it.

The same way there is nothing compelling a jurisdiction to permit the sale of alcohol.


142 posted on 12/18/2010 10:19:36 AM PST by BenKenobi ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." -Tolkein)
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To: saleman
The fact that she equates guns with drugs and porn tell me all I need to know about who she is and what she “fights” for.

_____________________________

This statement tells me all I need to know about saleman.

143 posted on 12/18/2010 10:21:13 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

And that would be?


144 posted on 12/18/2010 10:23:15 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Raider Sam

Cable is very recent, your left wing gains started well before cable, think the 1960s, the Warren Court, Rove V Wade, the feminist movement, Hollywood, the ACLU the growth of the entire anti-American, anti-Christian movement.

You guys have had great success in the last 60 years or so.


145 posted on 12/18/2010 10:25:47 AM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: Lorianne

Did I say to stone and whip the horrible women? The thing I hate about many women is the jumping to conclusions part.

These girls are getting something from doing this and its not money. What is it? Its perceived affection, and love. Its attention, and we all know that any attention is good. Kids exhibit this behavior by behaving badly when they don’t get good attention because they know that they will get attention when they behave badly.

While I believe that men behave badly when they look at porn, its the girls who have the most power in that situation. But they crave attention good or bad, and bad attention is always easiest to achieve.


146 posted on 12/18/2010 10:31:57 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: ansel12

Cable television has been regulated by the government since 1949. It became huge in the early 70’s. TBS started in 1976.


147 posted on 12/18/2010 10:33:23 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Lorianne

I would also like to say that no matter what the males do its the girls who are hurt the most. I would like to see those girls become healthy and in turn they would not choose to participate.

Just like many other things in this world it is easiest to cut off or reduce the supply rather than jail the users. We need healthy women in this world, and that is a call out to parents.


148 posted on 12/18/2010 10:35:06 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: DTogo

Your argument is simply liberalism, you guys have made HUGE gains since the 1960s, you, Hollywood, commies, the ACLU have just about erased the American culture, and the American peoples cultural conservatism.


149 posted on 12/18/2010 10:35:16 AM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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Is she part of the test? If she is a porn star, that would be a crime.


150 posted on 12/18/2010 10:37:01 AM PST by isom35
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To: Raider Sam

The success of your pro-porn movement, whether text or pictures, was delivered by the left and the leftwing courts, and is a part of the total package of the anti-American agenda.


151 posted on 12/18/2010 10:39:47 AM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: IbJensen; a fool in paradise
I HEART Phonography!


152 posted on 12/18/2010 10:39:53 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Raider Sam
You wrote: "I dont think all legislation is legislating morality."

Think about it some more. Lets take our most basic law: that against murder. Before the law came the morality - in our case the Ten Commandments and the 1000 years of Christian European culture that developed around that. As a result the morality was turned into law.

Other cultures have had very different morality, for instance Vikings saw nothing wrong with killing people from other races and taking their women, gold, and possessions. Headhunters in Borneo kill for religious purposes.

So, I will stick by my claim that all laws are based on morality. What would your example of a morally neutral law be?

153 posted on 12/18/2010 10:47:41 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Raider Sam
Please re-read my sentence earlier; the premise was stated there.

Cheers!

154 posted on 12/18/2010 10:48:27 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BenKenobi

“This is my rifle, this is my gun....”


155 posted on 12/18/2010 10:49:38 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: wtc911; Raycpa
The ability to tax is required for the funding of governments. Governments are their for the protection of the populace, which is a moral issue. Therefore, the gathering of taxes, and the code that is used to collect taxes has a moral component. How that is implement can be morally neutral, but the fact that the government can tax is not.

Let me show another example: Raycpa, in post #84, pointed out that he has a "law" that his sons must take out the garbage. The underlying moral principle to this is that garbage, if left unchecked, can lead to rodent infestations and disease, and therefore, for the health and welfare of the family, must be removed. How the garbage goes out is a morally neutral decision, but that it must go out is not.

That is what I mean about all laws having a moral component.

156 posted on 12/18/2010 10:51:39 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: ansel12

War is Peace


157 posted on 12/18/2010 10:53:40 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Thats a nice lookin machine


158 posted on 12/18/2010 10:54:21 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: TomGuy

>>>It has been around since mankind has.<<<

Got to agree with this one. What was the first thing my son’s right hand went to after taking off his diaper?

And you’re right about the use of visual imagery of naked women and depictions of sex to stimulate men. I ust saw this about 45 minutes ago on the Fox news channel as they were selling Pajamagrams and the associated lingerie what went along with the order.

I think anyone would be hard pressed to prove that women’s participation in making themselves look sexually attractive is not biological.

Having said that...

It’s also true that civilization and human progress are accompanied by the control and harnessing of our instincts toward bettering ourselves and our society. Yeah, my son’s hand wandered, but he’s not doing it on the streets, either. Yes, women dress sexy and show themselves off to selected men, but they’re not waiting for the men to line up like the chimps at Gombe, either. Porn is normal - as is keeping it private, behind closed doors, and beneath cultural norms which are more dignified, to use a Victorian term.

So the author is pointed in the right direction, but her perspective is colored by her ideology. IMHO


159 posted on 12/18/2010 10:54:53 AM PST by redpoll
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To: Raider Sam
I know one who would say that “porn” leads to marxism. So does throwing out the right to free speech.

Well lets see when porn (no scare quotes needed) was illegal throughout America were we more, or less, Maxist? Hmmm? The Citizens United case was about political speech, which is clearly what the founders were protecting with the first ammendment. It's amazing how limits on political speech are now accepted as normal and necessary while limits on porn is considered intollerable. People who think this way aren't really conservatives. They have accepted 90% of the liberal thought process and will find that they will be forced to surrender on the other 10% over time. Using your arguments you must support Don't Ask, Don't Tell's repeal. After all who are we to restrict the freedom of homosexuals to be who they are and openly espress their desires. Free Speech demands it. If I have to choose between the Constitution and morality it will be a very, very easy choice. No matter how brilliant the Constitution is merely a man-created document. It has been used and abused by generations, used to permit slavery, and then to abolish it. Used to forbid abortion, and then to protect it. Used to defeat racism, and then to promote it. It is not a reliable guide, it is merely a tool of imperfect humans valuable when used by skilled craftsmen with honorable intentions, destructive when used by amoral retards intent on glorifying their perversions and sickness.

160 posted on 12/18/2010 10:55:19 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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