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DADT Repeal & DREAM Act Get Their Day In The Senate Today (Limited Debate & Cloture Live Thread)
tpm ^ | December 18, 2010, 8:44AM | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 12/18/2010 7:35:51 AM PST by Red Steel

The Senate will act on two important pieces of President Obama's progressive legislative agenda today: the DREAM Act and the repeal of the military's ban on openly gay servicemembers. By the end of the day, the path to final passage is expected to be set for DADT repeal, while DREAM is expected to languish for another Congress to pass.

Starting at around 10:30 this morning, the Senate will take up a cloture vote on DREAM. Cloture -- voted in by a 60-senator super majority -- is required to cut off debate and move a bill to final passage in the Senate. DREAM, which would provide legal status for illegal immigrants who serve in the military or earn college degrees, is not expected to hit that mark, effectively scrapping the bill for the time being.

That will set the stage for a cloture vote on a standalone DADT repeal bill, which proponents say is destined for passage. That will be the first step toward ending the nearly two-decade practice of allowing gays and lesbians to serve in the military, but not if anyone who works with them knows they're gay. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who has been the driving force behind lining up the votes for DADT repeal, says he has the 60 he needs and most observers expect there to be little drama today.

Lieberman and his allies in the Democratic caucus are expected to get help repealing DADT from at least four Republicans -- Sens. Scott Brown (MA), Susan Collins (ME), Lisa Murkowski (AK) and Olympia Snowe (ME). Most of the rest of the GOP caucus is expected to vote against it, though Lieberman said yesterday that the bill may pick up support from the GOP as it heads toward final passage.

On the Democratic side, Sen. Joe Manchin (WV) has not said whether he'll support the standalone bill -- and he voted against repeal the last time it came up, as part of a defense spending bill last week. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who voted for cloture on the spending bill, has also not said how he'll vote. Proponents of repeal say they don't need either vote to win today.

Supposing cloture is reached (which, again, is all but a foregone conclusion according to supporters of repeal), a final vote on the bill to end DADT could come as early as today. More likely than not, however, 30 hours of final debate on the measure will be kicked off by the cloture vote. That puts a final repeal vote sometime late Sunday.

The House already passed its version of the standalone DADT repeal (as well as DREAM, for what it's worth) which means that if the Senate passes the repeal this weekend it will go straight to the president's desk for likely signature.

Stay tuned throughout the day for live updates on the happenings here on Capitol Hill.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; dadt; dontaskdonttell; dream; homosexualagenda
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To: Servant of the Cross

I agree. So why don’t we start work on making the Senate jellyfish cower to our demands?


221 posted on 12/18/2010 10:55:19 AM PST by apronius (Good start, but not complete.)
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To: ruralvoter

The civilian job announcements has a line about sexual orientation that was added.


222 posted on 12/18/2010 10:55:44 AM PST by bacal
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To: SE Mom

You make good points.


223 posted on 12/18/2010 11:06:09 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Lazamataz

I will say I was wrong about what Happened if that ultimately Happens, but all I doing was Relaying what I heard ,could be That He said that a Deal was possibly Made I will give you that


224 posted on 12/18/2010 11:29:12 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer

Did the senate repeal DADT? What was the final vote?


225 posted on 12/18/2010 11:54:21 AM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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To: ballplayer
Well now there you go. I often say, it is not the mistakes we make, it is our responses to them, that define us. :)

I hold you in esteem for your response. :)

226 posted on 12/18/2010 11:56:14 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: screaminsunshine
The Army will become a disgusting perverted joke.

"Steers and Queers" From "Full Metal Jacket" 10 second clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyFSdj1J5Vw

227 posted on 12/18/2010 12:15:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: daisy mae for the usa
Did the senate repeal DADT? What was the final vote?

Sometime in the next few minutes.

228 posted on 12/18/2010 12:17:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: daisy mae for the usa

The roll is being called right now in the Senate on this...

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/


229 posted on 12/18/2010 12:18:54 PM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: deks

This is absolutely disgusting!


230 posted on 12/18/2010 12:25:06 PM PST by Chieftain (2010 begins the new CONSERVATIVE revolution!)
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To: deks

Snowe R and Conrad D , Vonivich R , Nelson R , Kirk R vote yes on the final to pass DADT...


231 posted on 12/18/2010 12:34:47 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; deks

Thank you for the update. This is a sad day. I look for START to pass, too. America is being dismantled as most Americans sip eggnog and sing carols. Back before the Nov. election, I berated a French person who became an American citizen for doubting America, and now I feel like I should look her up and apologize. Where do we go from here? I’m feeling really sad. I don’t want my children to grow up in Sodom and Gomorrah.


232 posted on 12/18/2010 12:36:07 PM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Red Steel; Ahban; Amazed1953; AmericanHeroes.com; Andy E.; Arkansas Gal; ArkieGirl52; Arkinsaw; ...
Lame Duck Blanche Lincoln and Senator to face election in 2012 Mark Pryor both voted Yes on The Forcing Military to

Accept Perversion Act! Arkansas Ping!

233 posted on 12/18/2010 12:40:19 PM PST by pulaskibush (Thou shalt tax/steal from Peter to help Paul/Pablo is not in the Bible!)
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To: Kharis13

DADT is merely a “gateway’ to get a branch of The United States Government to recognize their (homosexuals) sin as a protected right. For purposes of legal precedence for future battles. We are sowing the wind I fear.


234 posted on 12/18/2010 12:41:13 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (The Tea Party will be heard Mr. Speaker!)
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To: Chieftain

Final vote on the repeal of the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy in the military (Homosexualization of the military)...

The DADT policy is repealed by a vote of 65-31.

The Roll Call should be available in about an hour here...

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_111_2.htm


235 posted on 12/18/2010 12:46:08 PM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Red Steel

Burr (NC) and Ensign (NV) also voted for repeal.


236 posted on 12/18/2010 12:46:11 PM PST by Hawk720
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To: All

DADT is repealed. 66 - 33


237 posted on 12/18/2010 12:46:44 PM PST by Racehorse (Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.)
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To: pulaskibush

FIRE PRYOR!


238 posted on 12/18/2010 12:48:10 PM PST by OSHA (Hey Muzzie! The Earth is not flat, When your face is toward mecca your a$$ is too!)
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To: Red Steel; All

Well, I know 6 guys who are happy !!!

BTW: Sales of K-Y Jelly and Vaseline at BXs and PXs are gonna skyrocket !!!

239 posted on 12/18/2010 1:00:29 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
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To: southernsunshine

This was a done deal a while ago. I had to complete a sex offender form a few months ago. I live inbase housing.


240 posted on 12/18/2010 1:27:24 PM PST by bacal
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