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CUTAWAY: AH-1Z Viper enters production as substantially new aircraft
Flight International ^ | 20/12/10

Posted on 12/17/2010 9:41:15 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 12/17/2010 9:41:20 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Correct URL-

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/12/20/351056/cutaway-ah-1z-viper-enters-production-as-substantially-new-aircraft.html


2 posted on 12/17/2010 9:42:20 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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3 posted on 12/17/2010 9:42:51 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Apaches may come and Apaches my go but the Cobra will always be with us.


4 posted on 12/17/2010 9:45:00 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Marines are amazing at just how much life they get out of equipment (probably because they’re always underfunded). I swear you could send an MEU ashore with Sopwith Camels, 1903 Springfields, and Krag-Jorgensens, and they’d still kick every ass in sight.

I always wonder if the engineers who design things like the original Huey and Cobra ever imagined “their” designs would still be in active service long after they retired?

}:-)4


5 posted on 12/17/2010 9:47:21 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So the new Cobra, I mean Viper, is more like the Apache?

Probably requires less maintainence time per flight hour though.

Couldn’t just buy Apache’s??


6 posted on 12/17/2010 9:54:15 AM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nasty looking critter!

Imagine that, it closely resembles the Cobra. They are going back to the thinner, longer design, which makes for a much better gunning platform.

I used to marvel in awe at what the Cobra’s were able to do, in terms of striking outright panic and fear in the enemy when ever they showed up for duty. Just one could turn a 40 acre area of jungle, into a biological desert in mere seconds.


7 posted on 12/17/2010 9:55:51 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: magslinger

ping


8 posted on 12/17/2010 10:01:54 AM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: Moose4

Adapt-Improvise-Overcome...Ooooorah!


9 posted on 12/17/2010 10:05:29 AM PST by SERKIT (We need more of Barry's "Wet Diaper" news conferences. He gets smaller and smaller each time.....)
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To: GeronL

Cobras are cheaper to buy and cheaper to maintain and you can fit twice as many of them on a ship. The Apache is designed as a long-range tank killer. It is excellent at that. The Marines however use helos for Close Air Support. For the USMC mission the Cobras are a better choice. Plus the new one carries as much ordnance. On top of that there is parts commonality between the Cobras and the UH-1s the USMC uses for carrying troops. This means more bang for the buck and the USMC doesn’t have the money to throwaway like the Army does.


10 posted on 12/17/2010 10:06:06 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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but can the new helicopters still be brought down by a rifle?


11 posted on 12/17/2010 10:17:30 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Seruzawa
the USMC has always been a tactically smart branch, the reason for universal parts exchange, make good sense, which means a damaged helo can be repaired much faster with other more damaged craft. They learned this lesson well in WW2. The Corsairs were interchangeable with several other models and parts.
12 posted on 12/17/2010 10:17:56 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Any aircraft can be brought down by a rifle.


13 posted on 12/17/2010 10:25:28 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Still, one badass helo...


14 posted on 12/17/2010 10:27:55 AM PST by FatherFig1o155 (Still fighting the fight. njconservative.wordpress.com/)
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To: Moose4
The Marines are amazing at just how much life they get out of equipment

Inn the early 80's I qualified with a Viet Nam era M-16A1 and a WWII vintage 1911.

I swear you could send an MEU ashore with Sopwith Camels, 1903 Springfields, and Krag-Jorgensens, and they’d still kick every ass in sight.

Damn straight. Semper Fi.

15 posted on 12/17/2010 10:32:01 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Just a fattened-up Cobra.

I wonder how it would do hunting elk.


16 posted on 12/17/2010 10:33:25 AM PST by lurk
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I remember very well when our first Cobras showed up in spring of 1968. I never got a chance to work on one before I rotated home. It’s hard to believe how that beast has evolved over 40+ years. We have certainly gotten our money’s worth out of that design.


17 posted on 12/17/2010 10:52:56 AM PST by beelzepug ("Don't be a wise guy, Eddie.")
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[In the early 80’s I qualified with a Viet Nam era M-16A1 and a WWII vintage 1911.]

I was issued an ancient .45 in Vietnam that was stamped “1899.” It would rattle when I walked. I've never seen another one since.

18 posted on 12/17/2010 11:07:42 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: GeronL

My guess is, they can pack more AH-1Zs onto a ship than they could AH-64Ds, plus I expect the Cobras are built to work in a salty marine environment (pardon the pun) and Apaches probably aren’t. Combine that with the parts commonality with the new Hueys allowing them to carry fewer types of spares, and it makes sense.

}:-)4


19 posted on 12/17/2010 11:13:19 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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I hear the Apache has a lot of down time. especially in the desert.


20 posted on 12/17/2010 11:44:17 AM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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