Posted on 12/16/2010 3:49:01 PM PST by FS11
But Lakin said Wednesday that despite his questions about Obama's eligibility for office, he was wrong not to follow Army orders. He acknowledged that the Army was the wrong place to raise his concerns about Obama, asked to keep his job and said he was now willing to deploy.
"I don't want it to end this way," Lakin told the jury Wednesday under questioning from his lawyer. "I want to continue to serve."
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What is sad is your poisonously hypocritical and utterly dishonest refusal to acknowledge Lakin's honor and courage. What is sad is your obvious enjoyment of assassinating the character of a man who put his life on the line for his country in every way he could, while you fire cowardly insults at him while hiding behind your anonymous computer. And what is saddest of all is that you can still look at yourself in a mirror after doing these filthy things, and not feel the slime dripping from your soul.
Here are some true American Heros, men of courage and honor.
Patrick Henry (May 29, 1736 – June 6, 1799) was an orator and politician who led the movement for independence in Virginia in the 1770s. A Founding Father, he served as the first and sixth post-colonial Governor of Virginia from 1776 to 1779 and subsequently, from 1784 to 1786. Henry led the opposition to the Stamp Act of 1765 and is well remembered for his “Give me Liberty, or give me Death!” speech.
Nathan Hale (June 6, 1755 – September 22, 1776) was a soldier for the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. A spy for the Continental Army, he volunteered for an intelligence-gathering mission in New York City but was captured by the British. He is probably best remembered for his purported last words before being hanged: “I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.”[1]
I don't see anyone ignoring his previous military record. I think everyone thinks that up until now he's given good service to his country. I hear more expressions of sorrow that Lakin chose the wrong vehicle for his protest. I will add, however, that a significant number of military and ex-military personnel do not admire missing deployment and will simply note that the court martial outcome was appropriate. That doesn't mean they're gleeful or spitting on his prior service.
I recognize that Lakin once took a brief “principled” stand of seeming “courage and honor” that he capitulated with his guilty pleas and cries for mercy from the merciless.
Your "recognize" nothing. You merely spit.
I don’t see anyone ignoring his previous military record. I think everyone thinks that up until now he’s given good service to his country. I hear more expressions of sorrow that Lakin chose the wrong vehicle for his protest. I will add, however, that a significant number of military and ex-military personnel do not admire missing deployment and will simply note that the court martial outcome was appropriate. That doesn’t mean they’re gleeful or spitting on his prior service.
63 posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:13:52 PM by tired_old_conservative
I feel sadness and disappoint about the Lakin affair. There was no patriotic victory in it.
Had he won you all would be calling him a hero.
Had he won you all would be calling him a hero.
67 posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:21:13 PM by ladyjane
True. Had he won rather than surrendered, I would have continued to honor Lakin as a hero as I did before he capitulated and pled guilty.
Would that the comments were so clean. It's as if the ruling against him came from God and cannot be critiqued, or that the restrictions against him in court were somehow justified.
So many "military people" act as if there is no law for military personnel - or if there is, it consists in the single line "obey or die." But the UCMJ has more than one page, it has due process and evidence trains and required argument structures. And it specifies that orders must be legal, and that it is illegal to follow illegal orders.
None of these things are taken lightly, and none of them are presumed to be violated until strong evidence can be shown at the very least. But when you have an honorable, combat-experienced military officer questioning the legitimacy of a president who cannot provide a simple birth certificate and - get this, all you grunts: creating Rules of Engagement that are getting many, many more military people killed in combat, and restricting them from even defending themselves, than ever before (GOT THAT?) - then to legally challenge that president, from military jurisdiction, is an act of COURAGE and HONOR.
And now, this so-called "judicial sentencing" against this man, who was obviously sabotaged and broken into a plea-deal, will only serve to continue to protect the ROE-expanded death toll being currently suffered by OUR TROOPS who can't even shoot back against known, fleeing Muslim terrorists anymore.
So celebrate if you want - I'll pass.
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The Miscalculations and Isolation of Lt Col Lakin
The Conservative Monster ^ | 12-16-10 | Steve Cooper
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:39:01 PM by FS11
The Miscalculations and Isolation of Lt Col Lakin
I believe that LTC Lakin suspected that his You Tube video about Obama being ineligible would unite the country to demand that Obama release all of his records and prove that he is a natural born citizen. This did not happen due to several reasons.
The media manipulation and blackout on LTC Lakin’s refusal to go to Afghanistan unless Obama proved he was eligible to be president, but most importantly the Fox News and conservative talk radio blackout. Sure Michael Savage mentioned eligibility a few times, but the power of Fox News was needed to make the Obama eligibility issue grow. Mentioning Lakin for 30 seconds like Brett Baier was just not enough play to the national audience.
Glenn Beck’s ridiculing of the birther movement (the leader of the Anti-Birther movement) also scared many Tea Party people away from the issue. I can not tell you how many times people e-mailed me that they know and believe that Obama is not eligible, but they were afraid to be labeled as “crazy”. You can thank Glenn Beck for this, because these Americans did not want to go against Beck’s wishes to support the Obama Eligibility movement.
Would you be good enough to share your expertise in this area? Are you or were you ever a JAG, or in the military, or a civilian lawyer? Were you at the hearings as an observer or participant, or do you know Col. Lakin personally?
I can’t understand your conclusion from his pleading guilty to one charge that it so much expressed fear or caving on principle, as realistically assessing the situation he was in, without knowing what expertise positions you to formulate that opinion. But I don’t know the man, and am not a lawyer, much less JAG.
In the moment, with adrenaline pumping on the bad side of a nasty bell curve, being a Nazi for a few minutes might not have seemed so bad. Afterwords, one is a little more grateful that some degree of institutionalized restraint held sway. Of course, I can't speak for those who didn't make it.
So war is a nasty thing. ROE get people killed. It's all just a question of degree. Maybe Obama’s are bad, but I wouldn't give a warm bucket of spit for Johnson and Nixon as war leaders, either. Elections happen, and as Rumsfeld might have said, you go to war with the President you've got, not the one you wish you had. Believing in legal tooth fairies won't change that.
Easy for you to say, not facing years in a military prison. This guy was an idiot and so were his Birther enablers.
You’re a conspiracy nutcase noob jackass. You have the rantings of a lobotomized Alex Jones.
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