Replies

I can back up what Butter says here.

I got my own uncertified records, but I am telling you, I DID have to jump through hoops to get it. It took 2 separate requests, the first of which HDOH still has not filled, though I KNOW it is sitting in a pile on Onaka’s desk, because his secretary told me that is where she found the second one. Her comment was, (paraphrasing)’...oh he didn’t get to these...’ Well yes, of course not, because Onaka is not doing ANY of them unless he is seriously pressed by the person requesting them. I had to speak to him PERSONALLY to get what I eventually got.

In what other State in the United States are you forced to speak to the Director of a Department of Health in order to get an UNCERTIFIED COPY OF YOUR OWN BIRTH RECORDS???

Seriously!

Answer that question in honesty and its immediately apparent that something is REAL wrong in Hawaii.

They aren’t just covering Obama’s dumb ass. No, they are covering up institutional FRAUD. Decades of it. They registered THOUSANDS of babies between 1959 and some time in the 70’s and or 80’s if not LONGER, who were born overseas!!! To parents who were foreigners.... on the basis of a late filed birth certificate with a home address listed as the location of that “birth” with nothing other than a witness signature.

I am willing to bet that Obama HAS one of those late filed forms, does not have a Dr. Signature on it, and CANNOT PROVE he was born in Hawaii because of Hawaii’s institutional fraud!

That is why Hawaii is desperate. If Obama’s records EVER become public, it will out the state in what it did. You see, those falsely registered babies, GOT AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP BECAUSE OF THEIR FRAUDULENT COLB’S GIVEN TO THEM BY THE STATE.

Think about THAT for a moment.

Obama is a jerk of the first order, but he is NOT important enough to force the state to do what it has been doing with regards to his records.

Hawaii has bigger fish to fry than just Oholyo. It just happens that Obama knows about Hawaii’s fraud and has leveraged it to his advantage. Make no mistake, Chicago has NOTHING on the corruption which has and still does exist in Hawaii. For sure, Obama knows how to leverage corruption.

So in light of this I ask again, in what other state do you have to personally speak to the Director of the Department of Health in order to get an UNCERTIFIED COPY of your OWN birth records??

This stinks worse than a 3 week dead fish wrapped in the New York Times.

When you go outside of established bureaucracy, yes, they make it difficult. It was probably quite easy for you to get your own COLB, but since they want to go with the computer generated COLBs (easier, cheaper) they have made it difficult to get copies of the originals. I've seen other bureaucracies do the same on many issue - if it's not cookie cutter easy, they don't want to do it. If this is the only time you've had to go up the chain of authority to get a bureaucratic mess straightened out, you're lucky and I salute you. I agree, and have stated in my previous posts, Hawaii does sound like it has a particularly messy operation.

As for "They registered THOUSANDS of babies between 1959 and some time in the 70’s and or 80’s if not LONGER, who were born overseas!!! " do you have proof for that? If so, please link or cite. Or is it just speculation? The DOH site says the late "Hawaiian birth" program ran from 1911 to 1972.