Posted on 12/16/2010 1:17:21 PM PST by Cardhu
No way. She’s a little on the edge, but there’s plenty enough of establishment in her to stand by “soldiers must do what they’re told”
Check this out.
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pioaths.html
Kinda neat.
Calvin Coolidge was sworn in by his father, a Notary Public.
In a pinch, I guess the highest ranking person available gets to do the honors.
Good thinking .... My answer to the question is that all orders received from a superior are legitimate until proven otherwise.
Lakin should have obeyed his orders.
When someones squeezing your nuts you’ll admit your Marylin Monroe.
“The 20th Amendment says that if a President elect has “failed to qualify” by Jan 20th the Vice President elect is to “act as President until a President shall have qualified.”
Just curious...what do you think the 20th Amendment means by “fail to qualify”?
I’m not trying to set you up. From what I’ve read, it seems the meaning is uncertain. The link below is how the Congressional Research Service answered it - with a non-answer.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22992.pdf
It seems to me to envision that the President-elect will be unable to serve for some reason (anything from underage to treason to resignation prior to inauguration, etc), and no suitable candidate has been installed to replace him. Apparently the political parties can install a replacement if a candidate dies between the popular vote & Electoral College vote, and the EC voters bound to the dead man may or may not be allowed to vote for anyone they wanted.
So if Obama had died on Nov 22, 2008, the Democrats would need to decide who would replace him (they would not have been required to default to Biden). If that candidate didn’t win a majority of the EC vote in Dec, then the President would have failed to qualify and Biden WOULD be installed as President until the party and EC figured out what to do.
Now, I’m a retired EWO/WSO and not a lawyer, so anyone with better info jump in. But what it doesn’t mean is that if you have a suspicion that the President, already sworn in, is underage or not a NBC, then he has failed to qualify. Even if you have proof, he would remain President (I think) until Congress removed him.
The 20th Amendment was passed in a year, and it doesn’t seem to have been well thought out.
“I have found in life that personal desires and facts get confused for one another very easily.”
That may explain my inability to slim down on a diet of meatball subs.
Saved his bacon?
“Oh here sir is my resignation I’m giving it to you even though I know the Army won’t accept it so that I can refuse to Obey an illegal Order from Obama to deploy to Afghanistan that I will be given in a year from now.....”
I believe he has been let off lightly with little more than a slap on the wrist and here’s why.....
An officer dismissed from the service is not the same as getting a Bad Conduct discharge and as we have seen in the past he could be pardoned for these offenses just as 1st Lt. Calley was for worse. Meaning he will eventually receive his full benefits.
Also he is being given six months to write a book and plenty of free time to do so. I’ll look forward to it coming out during the peak of the next presidential race.
He is still a Doctor and According the his replacement Maj. Dobson a better one than he was in Afghanistan.
And then there is the possibility that this court martial verdict could be thrown out during the automatic appeal process.
> “Got off light.”
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Bullshit!
Only to those that have zero respect for the constitution (like most of the lawyers here)
Yes, it will. It is just a matter of time.
“There is nothing hidden, except to be disclosed; nor is anything secret, except to come to light.”—Mark 4:22
Wow. Chiej Justice John Marshall presided over nine ceremonies for five different presidents.
> “What a fool; to think by missing movement and disobeying orders he could unseat Obamamao.”
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Whatever made you believe that he thought that?
He’s done something really courageous, and we all need to find a meaningful way of honoring him for it.
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Ya know, something that I haven't seen touched upon here that people really ought to contemplate.
At least a few of Lakin’s “reasons” for doing what he did were just that, Internet Myths.
From where I sit, those who repeat these myths are morally culpable to at least a small degree when this kind of thing happens.
A person really ought to take responsibility for themselves to have made a reasonable and rational effort to investigate and understand things before they repeat them of make the claim.
Just philosophizing a bit...
I’m not a lawyer. I did spend much of my 25 years deployed, and have no tolerance for those who fail to go.
If he didn’t think Obama was really President, he could have resigned. Instead he chose to obey some orders (pre-deployment leave) and refuse others (deploy).
He got off light.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you made a connection to Lakin because of the thread topic.
Give BT partial credit for effort.
By your post, I see the dumbing down of America is in full swing.
Agreed. That's why we started the Sanity Squad, remember? To protect the reputation of conservatives on Free Republic.
> “Yep. Oaths are meaningless.”
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His oath was exactly what compelled him to do it.
He is one of the few men of honor left.
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