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1 posted on 12/16/2010 1:04:50 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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Correction at end of paragraph one: “each state respectively.” I doubt that and respectfulness was involved.


2 posted on 12/16/2010 1:08:17 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Generally speaking, Sean is a putz. With great minds like Levin and Rush around, who needs a lightweight like Hannity?


3 posted on 12/16/2010 1:09:12 PM PST by albie
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Wasn't one of the goals of the 17th amendment to remove corruption of party bosses and take the huge sums of money out of the process?

That worked out well didn't it?

Now we have external influence picking the Senator that is supposed to be representing YOUR State.

5 posted on 12/16/2010 1:09:44 PM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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Correction to correction in comment #2. Any respectfulness, not “and respectfulness.”


6 posted on 12/16/2010 1:10:06 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Revoking the 16th and 17th amendment would go a long way to returning the power to the People and the States respectively.
7 posted on 12/16/2010 1:11:08 PM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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Dickey the toe sucker is on Hannity *again*

He says voters like Palin, they like Huckabee and they like.....*Sean says Newt* they like.....*Sean says Newt* they like.....*Sean says Newt* ..Uh Newt...

It’s so ridiculous.


11 posted on 12/16/2010 1:33:18 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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and think of the massive amounts of money now used in senatorial campaigns would be saved if State legislatures selected senators. I am all for getting rid of the 17th!!!.
13 posted on 12/16/2010 1:34:28 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hannity is still around?


17 posted on 12/16/2010 1:39:14 PM PST by crosshairs (The word for actor in Greek is hypocrite (its true).)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Dear Sean—concerning the 17th amendment, the argument for its repeal absolutely centers around states’ rights. If Senators are elected by elected reps and senators, they are more likely to defend their state against federal encroachments (upholding the 10th amendment), than they are if elected by the general population. Any federal program - ObamaCare, the financial reform bill, etc., - which increases burdens on state budgets would not sit well with Senators answerable to congressional bodies in their state.

Without weighing how correct or not the author is about any expectations of WHAT the effects of the 17th amendment were, or would still be, those effects, while maybe laudable, were NOT the core purpose of the 17rh amendment, and its requirement that federal Senators be selected by their respective state legislatures.

That core purpose is more related to what was suppose to be the federal structure of the republic than the possible corollary effects of the mandate of the 17th amendment. That core purpose of the 17th amendment was that the Senate was intended to represent "the states" of the united republic, as entities requiring direct representation for them, in their own right, just as "the people" of the united republic have their direct representation in the House of Representatives.

The method of selecting senators required by the 17th amendment was chosen BECAUSE it meant that "the states", as sovereign entities of the united republic CHOSE THEIR representatives to the federal body intended to represent THEM, not "the people" at large. THAT is why its repeal was destructive - it severely reduced the federal nature of the republic, by eliminating the DIRECT representation of the states in the federal legislature.

19 posted on 12/16/2010 1:46:28 PM PST by Wuli
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This stuff always cracks me up. One, that Hannity is so ignorant. And two, that anyone thinks the 17th amendment has anything to do with our troubles.


21 posted on 12/16/2010 1:48:59 PM PST by Huck (Antifederalist BRUTUS should be required reading.)
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Sean Hannity is an idiot, and sets out to prove it daily.

The man is more partisan than conservative.

32 posted on 12/16/2010 3:47:05 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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If people think repealing the 17th amendment will solve anything, they only need look at the recent record of lame dumbass corrupt liberal nobodies who got appointed last term in the Senate to be proved wrong. We had 6 of them and if *any* of them were in the top half of ‘good senators’ I didnt notice.

They were dregs.

Burris in Illinois - a left liberal Obama rubber stamp, Blago appointed and a joke
Bennett in Co - appointed, now elected. What’s the difference.

Some left-liberal nobody from Delaware.

In Florida, Charlie Crist’s right hand man. Strong conservative? NOT! Marco Rubio is so much better ... yet Marco would not have been Senator under appointment system.

There you go. Repeal the 17th amendment and you’ll get the same group of smug political elitists, except it will be HARDER to get rid ofthem because they will be indirectly and not directly accountable to voters.


33 posted on 12/16/2010 3:51:13 PM PST by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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Hey, where’s my courtesy ping?


35 posted on 12/16/2010 3:57:28 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (...and now for something completely different...)
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Dear G-d, they never stop with this!

I still don’t want Mike Madigan appointing my Senators!


48 posted on 12/17/2010 3:02:30 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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