Another "Costco" sort of incident?
Never bring a spray nozzle to a gun fight!!!!!
Is the 911 caller in jail?
Seven day waiting period when buying water nozzles from now on.
Related thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2642227/posts
Did they kill the family dog?
Death by waternozzle.
>> Sunday from a neighbor reporting an intoxicated man holding a “six-shooter”
Set to Mist...
Idiots.
Sometimes profanity is just too weak.
There was a time, many years ago, when police officers were familiar enough with weapons to be able to tell the difference between a handgun and something else. Hell, if I had dropped the hammer every time I had an excuse during my 23 year career, I’d have buried at least half a dozen folks that really didn’t need killing. That being said, I wouldn’t take the job today.
When I first heard this story it seemed reasonable. You just don’t point things that look like a firearm at cops.
This story puts a whole new angle on it.
It would make sense if they had small binoculars in the squad car to use in such a case. If you are observing someone for a while from a distance, it would prevent situations like this.
Once Again the LA Times misses the point,
The porch the man was sitting on was in an “Enclosed” courtyard, it was “Private Property”, he had every legal right to be there. The porch CANNOT be seen from ANY Public Easement,Right of Way, or Public Property of ANY KIND. Even If he did have a Gun, He COULD NOT BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME, HE Was Doing Nothing Illegal. There is no law against possessing a gun on Private Property, Concealed or Not if you a Legal Right to be there. Does everyone understand this now?? The Perpetrator who called 911 was from a building behind this one and upstairs looking down (peeping Tom), should have been told that possessing a gun on private property, not threatening anyone and doing nothing but sitting there, noticeably Drunk, IS NOT A CRIME, especially since the “gun” was in question on the 911 tape. So this nitwit 911 operator dispatches a Police Unit to investigate a NON CRIME. The Police Officers Had No Reasonable Suspicion a Crime was being committed or was about to. So what did they do? They sneaked into neighbors yards and peered thru Fences and pointed their weapons at him, by now they were about 10 feet away. They never Made any attempt to Identify themselves or even let their presence be known. You mean to tell me they couldn’t tell a water nozzle from a gun at ten feet??? So they OPENED FIRE and Executed him in Cold Blood.
If he did have a Gun and they did not kill him, HE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME,NOT EVEN A TICKET.
They Executed Him in Cold Blood for committing an act that was not a violation of ANY LAW, and no one has been arrested.
"Police, drop the gun"
Yeah, that takes way too long to say, when your standing behind cover, holding a shotgun....
The vic’s fault for thinking he could get drunk and play with a water nozzle on his own property....
Lots of Paperwork on this one.
It is a no hassle way to get their union contract benefits fulfilled.
Seems to me the guy would still be alive had the neighbor not flipped out over a water nozzle. That had the police primed for a threat long before they got out of the car.
They were reportedly 30m feet away from the man. There shouldn't be any "visibility" issues in this case. They had observed him long enough to confirm that he did indeed have something in his hands. Yet they did not immediately identify themselves and demand that he drop the "weapon". Had they done so, he would have probably wet himself and complied. Instead, a man that was sitting on private property waiting on a friend, playing with a garden hose nozzle, probably completely oblivious to the fact that he was being watched by police, was shot and killed under unjustifiable conditions. The guy probably never knew what happened and was dead before he hit the ground. A 12 gauge 00 Buckshot round has a way of making that happen, and so does a slug round, for that matter. At 30 feet, the distance at which this shooting took place the shotgun is a devastating weapon with either round.
I am am private contractor firearms instructor by profession, with the largest part of my customer base being law enforcement and military... There is no way I would let a LEO operate this way on the range, let alone on the street. Even on the range we require them to issue verbal commands and then act. Some of our targets are indeed "friendlies" and the students do have to pay attention. There is no "kill'em all" because they are just paper targets anyway... They will not pass and they will be reported to command. Sounds like there are some serious training issues and careless and/or malicious LEO's on the street there. Regardless of which it might be, there is no excuse for this happening.
Sad for the victim and his family...
Regards,
Raven6