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Man killed by Long Beach police was holding a water nozzle, not a gun, police say
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-long-beach-shooting-20101214,0,2734214.story ^ | 14 December, 2010 | Nardine Saad

Posted on 12/15/2010 6:28:43 PM PST by marktwain

The 35-year-old Long Beach man killed in an officer-involved shooting Sunday was holding a pistol-grip water nozzle, not a gun, Long Beach police officials said Monday.

Two officers responded to a 911 call at 4:40 p.m. Sunday from a neighbor reporting an intoxicated man holding a "six-shooter" in the 5300 block of East Ocean Boulevard in the upscale Belmont Shore neighborhood.

"The officers had a position of cover and were observing the suspect while other officers were en route," said Sgt. Dina Zapalski, a spokeswoman for the Long Beach Police Department.

Zapalski said Douglas Zerby had been sitting on a stoop playing with what appeared to be a weapon and pointing it at objects as if it were a gun. He extended his arms and pointed in the direction of an officer. Police said they did not have time to make their presence known or to tell Zerby to drop the weapon before opening fire because they believed he was a threat.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; donutwatch; douglaszerby; jbts; misconduct; police; splashlist
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To: dragnet2
No, I was refering to this picture in post #39
101 posted on 12/15/2010 9:40:34 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: dragnet2

Nope. No diversion here. The truth is probably somewhere in between what was reported and what really transpired. I never believe what I read or hear with the exception being if I actually see it for myself.


102 posted on 12/15/2010 9:40:54 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: Inyo-Mono
Could I see the link associating that item with this event?

But so you know, this does not make it OK for the LEOs to stand behind cover, with shotguns, opening up and killing this guy, without first shouting, "Police, drop the gun".

103 posted on 12/15/2010 9:53:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: dragnet2

Here is the direct link. Look for the small photo under “Evidence.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-long-beach-shooting-20101214,0,2734214.story

I don’t think it was right for them to shoot either. The guy wasn’t breaking any laws when he was shot.


104 posted on 12/15/2010 10:12:14 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Thanks for that.

I agree...The LEO’s had cover, shotguns in hand...A quick, “Police, drop the gun” would have saved a hell of a lot misery and senseless tragedy.


105 posted on 12/15/2010 11:52:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Considering they had NO LEGAL RIGHT to Sneak into neighboring yards in an effort to attempt to prevent a Man from committing an act or offense THAT IS LEGAL AND NOT A VIOLATION OF ANY LAW. IT IS COLD BLOODED MURDER by COWARDS. I am still waiting for the Boot Licker trolls here to explain to us all WHAT WOULD HE BE CHARGED WITH IF HE HAD A GUN AND WASN’T KILLED?? That’s what I thought, NOTHING. Which Means that from the instant they stepped out of their patrol car IT WAS Excessive Force and a Clear Violation of Law. FIRST DEGREE MURDER IS THE ONLY CHARGES AVAILABLE under these circumstances, withs a Special Circumstance allegation of LYING IN WAIT. GIVE THEM THE NEEDLE.


106 posted on 12/16/2010 5:19:00 AM PST by eyeamok (what this man was doing a crime.)
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To: Wiggins

If you would have bothered to read the story ALL SIDE AND ALL PARTIES ARE I AGREEMENT with the details surrounding this EXECUTION of an Innocent Person by Jack Booted Cowardly Thugs. The Question is WHY??? YOU CANNOT HAVE REASONABLE SUSPICION A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED WHEN THE ONLY ACTS YOU OBSERVE ARE LEGAL AND WITHOUT SUSPICION. Now go lick some boots .


107 posted on 12/16/2010 5:25:35 AM PST by eyeamok (what this man was doing a crime.)
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To: Wiggins

It appears obvious that you cannot fully grasp the facts surrounding this Cold Blooded Execution by COWARDS. So here goes:

WHAT LAW WERE THEY ATTEMPTING TO ENFORCE?
WHAT LAW WAS HE SUSPECTED OF VIOLATING?

Anything short of answering these 2 questions is just drivel.


109 posted on 12/16/2010 5:51:44 AM PST by eyeamok (what this man was doing a crime.)
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To: eyeamok
I will guarantee you that if this incident had happened in Iraq or Afghanistan, The troops [American Servicemen/women] who did it would be either in the guardhouse or brig awaiting court martial on first degree murder charges.

Do I expect that to happen in this case? No. But I do expect them to be commentated and promoted.

110 posted on 12/16/2010 6:07:02 AM PST by sport
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To: Smokin' Joe
Just have to disagree with you.

Cops should be trained and held accountable for their training.

They effed-up big time. Shooting an unarmed man without warning is a crime and they should be prosecuted.

Hiding behind the badge and the “I was amped up and thought it was a gun” is a bull$hit excuse. Once we accept that then there is fundamentally no accountability for a cop's judgment or actions.

111 posted on 12/16/2010 6:45:47 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: ought-six

I hate it when they do that. Don’t they realize how long it takes for them to mature? But then, what of the nasturtiums?


112 posted on 12/16/2010 8:18:30 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: OldPossum

I say that because I’ve read so many stories of how the first thing they do is shoot the family dog.


113 posted on 12/16/2010 8:19:47 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: dragnet2
Tax payers get beat like a drum again...

As well they should for electing city officials who do nothing to rein in this type of behavior by the city's police department.

114 posted on 12/16/2010 8:32:49 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: eyeamok
It appears obvious that you cannot fully grasp the facts surrounding this Cold Blooded Execution by COWARDS. So here goes:

 
WHAT LAW WERE THEY ATTEMPTING TO ENFORCE?
WHAT LAW WAS HE SUSPECTED OF VIOLATING?

 
Anything short of answering these 2 questions is just drivel.

The police were obviously trying to enforce the law which states that for anything you do, even watering plants [as per EPA rules], you are first required to obtain a Governmental Permission Slip. So, he was obviously guilty of ACTION WITHOUT A PERMIT.

In addition to violating the above, the deceased was also violating the regulation which demands that when a police officer enters the immediate area, with 'immediate area' defined as whatever the officer feels like at that time, the normal citizens [otherwise known as peons] are to genuflect with appropriate awe and/or terror at the officer's mere presence. So, obviously, he was guilty of FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE HIS BETTERS.

[/sarc]

115 posted on 12/16/2010 8:34:04 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Probably the closest to the truth so far, even if in jest.

I am still waiting for the boot lickers to answer these 2 questions. let me give you guys a hint: THERE ARE NONE.


116 posted on 12/16/2010 8:42:21 AM PST by eyeamok (what this man was doing a crime.)
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To: Wiggins

Thank you very much, but what about the 2 questions ?? It’s OK we know you can’t answer them. Because to Answer them is to Establish Guilt on Behalf of the Police Officers involved.


118 posted on 12/16/2010 8:47:21 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

We’ll, then I would guess you deserve Obama, and 14 *trillion* in Federal debt, the next 15 generations of your off-spring will be paying on....


120 posted on 12/16/2010 7:16:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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