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VA Attorney General: If We Lose, Government 'Will Be Able To Order' People To Buy Anything
CNSNews ^ | December 15, 2010 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 12/15/2010 11:40:29 AM PST by jazusamo

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RE :”Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli told CNSNews.com that the federal government will be able to “order” individuals to purchase any product or service if the individual mandate in health care law is determined to be constitutional by the Supreme Court.

The Obamacare defense will be that the Federal government can tax you more than others for not doing something they want you to, just as they tax you less for doing what they want you to, with tax credits.

The best part of this decision is it keeps the most unpopular part of Obama-care in the news and in voters minds. People HATE laws that cost them money, and they love laws that give them money (or appear to) like the mandates on insurance companies.

41 posted on 12/15/2010 1:46:48 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

alls i can say is that they better hurry up and collect the guns, the pushback might be a bitch...


42 posted on 12/15/2010 1:54:19 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

This kind of stuff is mind-blowing. They know people can’t fight this so they cram it down our throats.


43 posted on 12/15/2010 1:59:19 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Government can “ordering people to buy particular products” if they can order us to buy an 0bamaCare approved Insurance Policy.

If 0bamaCare stands, then next, the Government will order us to buy cabbage, and outlaw meat.

Why not?


44 posted on 12/15/2010 2:01:43 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”alls i can say is that they better hurry up and collect the guns, the pushback might be a bitch...

Obama can go on TV and give an emotional pitch for why the government needs your personal firearms and then pass a gun tax of 10K per gun per year to ‘reduce the deficit’.

If Obama came up with a good reason, like he needs your guns to arm a national militia(needed to make sure you pay your Obama-care tax) , you would give yours up right?

45 posted on 12/15/2010 2:01:43 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: 556x45

Well said...Way too many of the jerks representing us don’t know the difference between govern vs rule, and probably don’t care.


46 posted on 12/15/2010 2:03:00 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: sickoflibs

Anyone comes for me or my guns, they get shot.

As my Jewish Shooting Buddies say,

“This is my ‘F-You, You Damned Nazi!’ Program”

“I am not getting on the cattle car.”


47 posted on 12/15/2010 2:16:20 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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To: jazusamo

Can’t you all just feel it? We’re on a verge of a revolution. We don’t know what it will be, but it’s there, ready for us to embrace it.


48 posted on 12/15/2010 2:16:33 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

I think you may be right, we’ve been being pushed and this lame duck fiasco could turn out to be the final straw.


49 posted on 12/15/2010 2:23:25 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t think this lame duck is the trigger. But, don’t you feel on the edge? Don’t you think, what more will they try? I’m prepared, and ready to engage. Most of us are. What will be the trigger? Right now, with this senate and lame duck, our hands are tied. But how much more will we take? We’re at the edge. There will be a trigger, it’ll be interesting what that trigger is. We can all speculate, but no one predicted the tea party. It just happened. I believe the revolt will be organic and just happen. Something will be the final straw. And we’re right there. I believe, if business as usual continues, we’ll have a revolt. What will that final straw be?

My biggest worry is, our country divided and the radicals trying to put us out, and the terrorists are capitalizing on this. Both are toxic. The democrats did this to us. Democrats to be outlawed.


50 posted on 12/15/2010 2:34:36 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Yes, I feel more and more on the edge. I suppose it’s because of the helplessness of the last couple years. The jerk in the WH, pelosi and reid and the thugs that carry their water ignore not only us but many of their own. All of them ignore the will of the people and the LAW in many cases.

You’re probably right in saying this lame duck session won’t be the trigger but if the Rats succeed in just half of what they’re trying to shove down our throats before January it will magnify that helpless feeling greatly. I guess I’m impatient in not wanting to wait another two years to get some semblance of order back in Washington, hopefully our new House can shut down the Rat criminals until 2012.


51 posted on 12/15/2010 2:51:31 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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My fear is our newly elected will be co-opted. I don’t see it, but I don’t know the allure of the DC club. I am hopeful they’ll say FU. But, will they fall prey to them?

My opinion is, we’ve given them this chance. We’re willing to see what they do. If they fail to uphold the will of the people, all bets are off. If they continue to compromise with rinos and libs, we the people are going to have to change our tactics.

We are at the final ‘give you a chance to get it right’ phase. I know everyone in my circle are willing to fight. I don’t know if the GOP realizes how pissed we are. My reps, state and local are conservative, so it’s hard for me to judge the pulse of the rest of the states and countries.


52 posted on 12/15/2010 4:10:42 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: sickoflibs

hehehe...the first one is expensive, after that, the rest are ‘freebies’ if ya get my drift, and if i actually had any guns...already sold em all to buy gas to get to work to pay the garbage bill and prop tax...and buy a couople cans of alpo for the chirun...i know i should buy generic dog food, but hey, they need good food to do jumping jacks to keep from freezin to death...


53 posted on 12/15/2010 10:14:43 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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nah, theyre bankin on 'civility' and a fear of death/incarceration...

I dont know where the breakin point will be, but it surely aint far for some...

54 posted on 12/15/2010 10:18:17 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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By now you know I am no koolaid drinker either flavor. Obama-care forces no-one to buy anything. There is an extra ‘tax’ for some but no penalties or collection methods (beyond tax refunds) for not paying allowed. The problem is more complex than that.

I know that this mandate aspect is good political strategy to exploit because I preach politics too, but Obama-care is another freebee that will blow up eventually, just like this current Obama/RINO tax deal.

55 posted on 12/15/2010 10:33:34 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: metmom

I am so proud to be a Virginian! Haha!

God bless Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli!


56 posted on 12/16/2010 7:14:35 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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