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To: Gondring

>>{i.e. deception cannot work on the unreasoning [...]
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>I would differ with that premise.

Why is that?
The way I see it a boulder cannot reason, and so it cannot be deceived.
A computer which can process information, but not reason, cannot be deceived (though the information it is given might indeed be false).
A dog, which does have some little reasoning capability (the towel over the dog-biscuit test, for example, involves reasoning) might be deceived (such as throwing the non-existent stick for him to fetch).
Humans, which are commonly recognized as being creatures-of-reason (though whether or not they commonly EMPLOY reasoning is a different subject), are commonly deceived.


76 posted on 12/15/2010 2:36:32 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well, as long as you’re going to make an argument via broad definitions, it seems that “force” falls into your definition of “reason”...as in: “It makes sense to comply than to get hurt by not complying.”


85 posted on 12/15/2010 7:57:06 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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