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Army birther pleads guilty to 1 of 2 charges
AP ^ | December 14, 2010 | AP

Posted on 12/14/2010 9:25:59 AM PST by Smokeyblue

An Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questions Barack Obama's eligibility to be president has pleaded guilty to 1 of 2 charges against him.

At a court-martial proceeding Tuesday in Maryland, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin of Greeley, Colo., pleaded guilty to not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not showing up at Fort Campbell in Kentucky where he was supposed to report.

(Excerpt) Read more at wkrn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen
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To: centurion316
RE :”He is pleading guilty because he is guilty as charged. Go find some other poor dupe on whom to peddle your silly birther wares.

Ding :) Thanks for stating the obvious (to some of us anyway.)

This thread brought out the wild ones.

441 posted on 12/14/2010 6:40:15 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: centurion316

I’m not advocating for the military to rise up in rebellion of the government. What I’m saying is that the powers that be have created a conundrum of such inescapable qualities that we are seeing the results of this vaccuum.

Unfortunately, no citizen has standing to question the King. Lakin has made a decision to make a political statement, correct. The military doesn’t like it, and I wouldn’t like it either but for the fact that the eventual dissolution of America and her Constitution appears to be the other choice.

Rock and a hard place. Either we are a nation of laws worth defending, or we are not.


442 posted on 12/14/2010 6:41:01 PM PST by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: FS11

Just curious, have you ever served on a Court Martial panel? Have you ever heard matters in extenuation and mitigation? Have you ever discussed those matters among your fellow panel members before determining a sentence?

I have done all of those things and I think that I understand where Lakin’s defense attorney is going with this. I am inclined to agree with his approach.


443 posted on 12/14/2010 6:41:17 PM PST by centurion316
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To: mojitojoe

Back when I was in the good graces of the birthers (Man, that seems like ages ago ... oh, wait. It was.), I was given a few lists too. Then I was removed from the trusted list and added to the “you know what” list(s).

You know who “they” is. And so do I. But I’m not allowed to tell because I promised I wouldn’t. And I keep my word.


444 posted on 12/14/2010 6:42:08 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: FS11; Lurking Libertarian
"The judge will instruct the panel that they should not be influenced by any sympathy for the defendant, or the defendant’s family in any way be affected by your decision."

Goodness, your disregard for military jurisprudence and procedure is breathtaking. Do you understand that there are two elements to the court-martial trial, the findings and the sentencing? Do you understand that in a court-martial, the convicted is given BROAD LATITUDE, almost to the point of unencumbered latitude to present mitigation factors for the jury panels consideration, and has the opportunity to provided both sworn and un-sworn statements?

The jury panel IS IN NO WAY instructed to disregard these statements (or other evidence) because of "sympathy".

445 posted on 12/14/2010 6:42:20 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: BuckeyeTexan

You didn’t ask her nicely, you sounded arrogant, bossy and reminded me of Obongo. Get down off that high horse, nobody is perfect.


446 posted on 12/14/2010 6:42:56 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: FS11

Doubt away ...


447 posted on 12/14/2010 6:42:56 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: OldDeckHand
RE :"Again, did I mention you're an idiot?"

I see you have your hands full here :)

448 posted on 12/14/2010 6:43:55 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: centurion316
"Just curious, have you ever served on a Court Martial panel? "

I'll take, "No Effing Way" for $100, Alex.

449 posted on 12/14/2010 6:45:17 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: FS11
They have both shown themselves to be ignorant of the law.

Please enlighten us. We know their experience and credibility from their long presence and commentary on these threads. You seem to be new. We would love to know more about you credentials and precisely what you think is deficient about their legal reasoning.

450 posted on 12/14/2010 6:46:04 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Herbster

The head birther pinged the bossman too. So I was in good company.

I didn’t continue to berate her. I read her “apologies.” They weren’t acceptable to me. An apology should be just that, an apology, and nothing more - no ancillary commentary. So I suggested something that was appropriate.

Butter modified it to her liking and used it. I’ve already commended her for that.


451 posted on 12/14/2010 6:49:03 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: mojitojoe; BuckeyeTexan
Be glad I’m not butter, I would tell you what to do and where to go.

I believe Mr. Robinson went a long way towards doing that earlier on this thread. I'm particularly impressed with his reply 149. Most perceptive.

452 posted on 12/14/2010 6:49:24 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mills044
Well, something can and should be done.

In January, Speaker Boehner should appoint a committee of the House to investigate possible bases for impeachment, including Obama's lack of constitutional qualifications to serve as president. That committee would have the power to subpena any and all documents that might be necessary to clarify any questions regarding the facts. Then, depending on the facts that are discovered, votes might be taken on impeachment.

At this point, since the courts won't intervene, it all comes down to Speaker Boehner. If he won't help, then this issue will be relegated to history's trash can for kooky, whacky, moonbeam claims. It's an important issue and deserves respect.

I hope Speaker Boehner doesn't abandon these important constitutional principles.

453 posted on 12/14/2010 6:50:12 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: mills044

I recommend that you take your complaint to your politicians. They are the ones who must solve this issue and they are the ones who have lacked the courage to step up to the plate. Hillary could have done it, but she didn’t. McLain could have done it, but he didn’t. Any member of Congress could have done it, but they didn’t.

Force the politicians to deal with this issue by demanding legislation that requires candidates for President and Vice President to present certified proof of eligibility as a condition to be listed on the ballot. Politicians at the state level can enact such legislation.


454 posted on 12/14/2010 6:51:49 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Herbster

Guess you’re easy to fool. LMAO!


455 posted on 12/14/2010 6:52:15 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Herbster
Not a good day...

That's his idea of a joke. Usmcobra has not been banned or suspended.

456 posted on 12/14/2010 6:52:21 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Poor little attention wh*re. Nobody paying any attention to your tonight?


457 posted on 12/14/2010 6:53:27 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe

It has been reported that Mareen Dowd was at the trial. I suppose we can expect a silly NYT after-Birther column from her.


458 posted on 12/14/2010 6:55:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: mojitojoe

My Gut feeling is that he will invite fat Hugo to his next inauguration.


459 posted on 12/14/2010 6:56:12 PM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: centurion316; Las Vegas Ron

You may get down on your knees tonight and pray God that the United States military never does what you suggest they ought to do, rise up in rebellion to the government of the United States.
________________________

I’ll bet Honduras wouldn’t agree with you and if they did, they would now be another Venezuela or Cuba.


460 posted on 12/14/2010 6:56:32 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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