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Army birther pleads guilty to 1 of 2 charges
AP ^ | December 14, 2010 | AP

Posted on 12/14/2010 9:25:59 AM PST by Smokeyblue

An Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questions Barack Obama's eligibility to be president has pleaded guilty to 1 of 2 charges against him.

At a court-martial proceeding Tuesday in Maryland, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin of Greeley, Colo., pleaded guilty to not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not showing up at Fort Campbell in Kentucky where he was supposed to report.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen
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To: OldDeckHand

“What kind of “lawyer” allows his client to testify to privileged information, olddeck?”

Probably the kind of lawyer who is either attempting to build a foundation of ineffective assistance of counsel for later appeal, or preparing the jury panel for some explanation at allocution that will perhaps mitigate exposure at sentencing.

389 posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:24:25 PM by OldDeckHand


More nonsense. Lakin waived his right to appeal when he plead guilty and the bad advice of his lawyers does not “mitigate exposure.” In fact, Puckett’s bad advice is increasing Lakin’s “exposure,” i.e., Lakin testified that Jensen advised him that “I can’t ethically advise you to disobey those orders.”


401 posted on 12/14/2010 5:41:56 PM PST by FS11
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Well, you’re a better man than I.
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That’s not hard to do.


402 posted on 12/14/2010 5:43:13 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
DO YOU SUPPORT IT?

What, Katrina? I wasn't too pleased but it didn't harm me much.

Will you support or condemn those in the Military who disobey orders to engage the American Citizens?

Condemn obviously. What, are you ignorant?

Further, I'm not obligated to answer to you for a damned thing.

If you feel that failing to buy into the birther lunacy makes
someone an Obama supporter that's your business. And your right.

It's also retarded.

403 posted on 12/14/2010 5:44:29 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: usmcobra

The military is not supposed to be the personal praetorian guard of the president, beholden to him personally.


404 posted on 12/14/2010 5:46:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Red Steel

Are there any facts being reported that you dispute?


405 posted on 12/14/2010 5:47:34 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: FS11
"Lakin waived his right to appeal when he plead guilty and the bad advice of his lawyers does not “mitigate exposure.” "

He did? I guess we're ignoring the other contested charge, aren't we.

Again, did I mention you're an idiot?

By the by, what part of "he's going to be sentenced by a jury panel" don't you understand. Right now, everything Puckett does will be to mitigate Lakin's exposure at sentencing. The panel could find for "no punishment" to as high as 3(ish) years confinement, dismissal and forfeiture of all pay and allowances. If Puckett can craft a narrative that Lakin, although told explicitly not to disobey, was implicitly persuaded to do just that, it might just help him at sentencing.

Of course, you're the "legal expert" here, so I'm not telling you anything you don't understand already.

406 posted on 12/14/2010 5:47:55 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: rxsid
He will run in 2012, are you kidding me? You think those 2 greedy pigs are giving up their gravy train or their march toward Marxism, no way in hell. My prediction, he will win easily, this thread has convinced me of that. We will have him for 6 more years. During his 2nd four years he has nothing to lose and we will be lucky to recognize this country ever again. I never hoped more that I am wrong but I fully expect this is exactly how it will turn out.

Oh and FYI, I don't know who this supposed military is that thinks he is legit and respects him. I'm not going into personal details but based on what I see and hear, it's about 80-20. Majority questions his eligibility and his motives and can't stand him.

407 posted on 12/14/2010 5:49:15 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
You are welcome to your opinion, but he put his career on the line. All I see are a bunch of gutless wonders in Congress, and the Judiciary.

The flight surgeon who had to step up and take Lakin's spot in Afghanistan is putting something a helluva lot more valuable than a career on the line.

408 posted on 12/14/2010 5:49:57 PM PST by Drew68
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To: butterdezillion
The people perpetrating this garbage are not worthy to be in the same room with the rank and file who are faithfully doing their duties.

You know who's faithfully doing his duty right now? The guy who had to take Lakin's spot in Afghanistan.

409 posted on 12/14/2010 5:53:59 PM PST by Drew68
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To: humblegunner

How about trying to vote him out
__________________

Good luck with that. Want to make a bet?


410 posted on 12/14/2010 5:54:23 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Red Steel
May as well expose the other side of the CAAFLOG guy who is a leftist:

Is anything reported on that blog inaccurate?

411 posted on 12/14/2010 5:56:59 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: OldDeckHand; FS11
Again, did I mention you're an idiot?

I believe that you have mentioned that. But, you have never proven that assertion. Proof of your assertion has come from FS11 and unassailable proof it certainly is.

412 posted on 12/14/2010 5:59:28 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Just showing you that guy has an leftist axe to grind.


413 posted on 12/14/2010 5:59:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: humblegunner; mojitojoe; little jeremiah
Condemn obviously. What, are you ignorant?

I've had to ask you three times now whether or not you condemn or support it, then you call me ignorant...lol.

Further, I'm not obligated to answer to you for a damned thing.

No, you are not, but this is a debate forum. no? Is there some reason you don't like being called out to justify your posts?

You stated it can't happen here and I pointed out where it has, you said it couldn't using you own SON as an example.

Don't like it then tough sh%t!

If you feel that failing to buy into the birther lunacy makes someone an Obama supporter that's your business. And your right.

Well thank you for admitting you're an Obama supporter, it's about time.

My questions are relevant in determining just when it is acceptable for the Military to question their orders and where you stood on it.

Retarded, lol, you got backed into a corner and now you're scrambling like a wuss.

414 posted on 12/14/2010 6:03:10 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Great post and the reason I don’t have much hope for this country.


415 posted on 12/14/2010 6:03:33 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

What kind of “lawyer” allows his client to testify to privileged information, olddeck?

“If you are going to defend against a claim by saying that you were relying on the advice of counsel when you did what you did (which is evidence that you were acting in good faith and without criminal intent), you have to waive the privilege in order to disclose the advice.”

387 posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:23:57 PM by Lurking Libertarian


More nonsense. The bad advice of Lakin’s lawyers does not mitigate his guilt in any way.

It is obvious that you two are ignorant of the law, but perhaps you have heard the saying that “Ignorantia legis neminem excusat,”, i.e. ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it.

Lakin waived his right to appeal when he plead guilty and the bad advice of his lawyers does not “mitigate exposure.” In fact, Puckett’s bad advice is increasing Lakin’s “exposure,” i.e., Lakin testified that Jensen advised him that “I can’t ethically advise you to disobey those orders.”


416 posted on 12/14/2010 6:06:16 PM PST by FS11
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Having the opinion that the birther nonsense is going nowhere makes one an Obama supporter?

You keep thinking that, Spunky.


417 posted on 12/14/2010 6:06:30 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Great post and the reason I don’t have much hope for this country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vsaPEajh0


418 posted on 12/14/2010 6:07:59 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe; butterdezillion

I love you too, joe.

But for the record, I wasn’t bossing anyone. I gave an example of an appropriate apology. Butter could take it or leave it. She took it, which speaks volumes about her sincerity.

You always tell me what to do and where to go. Why should this thread be any different? Let me have it. I can take it.


419 posted on 12/14/2010 6:09:36 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: humblegunner

Your words, not mine, spunky.


420 posted on 12/14/2010 6:09:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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