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CCI, Copper and S&P 500 Commentary From Trader Dan
Jim sinclair's Mineset ^ | December 13, 2010 at 3:19 pm | Dan Norcini

Posted on 12/13/2010 12:51:26 PM PST by Razzz42

...Note that the CCI (Continuous Commodity Index) has run to its current level WITHOUT the participation of crude oil which at the time it made its all time high back in 2008 was trading close to $150. It is currently below $90. That is what is terrifying. We are in effect looking at the prices of food and metals in this CCI doing all the heavy lifting in the commodity sector. Heaven help us if energy prices, particularly natural gas which has been extremely cheap, take off.

Note also the separate chart of copper which is now within a whisker of taking out the 2008 high in price.

You will also note that the S&P 500 has effectively retraced all of its losses since Lehman collapsed as well.

What the Fed has accomplished is to push the price of paper assets higher and inflate the commodity sector while the employment picture remains bleak and wages remain stagnant. Oh, and don’t forget, long term interest rates are now rising even as the housing market remains mired in foreclosures and delinquencies... ...The nature of these flows is that they are extremely fickle and quite vulnerable to any news or action on the part of monetary authorities to go after the speculators. I am not sure that there is much any of them can do as long as we have free money available for leveraged plays so while the party goes on, enjoy it. Just be careful. Too much of this demand is artificial.

(Excerpt) Read more at jsmineset.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cci; copper; inflation
Norcini's corresponding charts are shown at the article's link.
1 posted on 12/13/2010 12:51:31 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42

I have a question. Gold is out of my budget, but I’m intersted in silver and copper. Where can I get silver coins and copper ingots witout hugh markups?


2 posted on 12/13/2010 12:53:59 PM PST by ak267
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To: ak267

I use Provident Metals. Low markups.


3 posted on 12/13/2010 12:58:57 PM PST by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: Razzz42

I realize we’re getting near Christmas but volume is horrible in the S&P right now. Smells like we could be near a top.


4 posted on 12/13/2010 1:07:06 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The battle isn't over. Hold their feet to the fire.)
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To: ak267

I bought mine on ebay.

Search for “junk silver.” I bought mine in $100 “face value” increments (NOT actual value - face value of the coins).


5 posted on 12/13/2010 1:07:37 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

Stagflation arrives.


6 posted on 12/13/2010 1:10:23 PM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: ak267

http://inflation.us/reviews/

Starting point for links to precious metals sellers, call one and ask about copper. Check price quotes against a local coin shop.’Junk’ US silver coins probably sell for the lowest premium, next would be silver bullion (bars).

Be careful on Ebay, don’t get scammed.


7 posted on 12/13/2010 1:19:41 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42

Thanks.

I’m thinking of buying 1/10 oz coins (silver) and copper pennies.


8 posted on 12/13/2010 1:33:19 PM PST by ak267
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To: Razzz42

Something’s Wrong in the Silver Pit: But It’s Much Bigger than J.P. Morgan

http://blog.ml-implode.com/2010/12/something%E2%80%99s-wrong-in-the-silver-pit-but-it%E2%80%99s-much-bigger-than-j-p-morgan/


9 posted on 12/13/2010 1:38:18 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: ak267

rethinking....no pennies, perhaps mostly small siver coins and a couple of 1oz pure copper coins.

not gonna go overboard....just being prudent.


10 posted on 12/13/2010 1:49:41 PM PST by ak267
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To: Razzz42

2 years ago, I paid about $1.89 a gallon for my propane.

Delivery in November cost me $3.45 a gallon. No sign it is coming down in the future.


11 posted on 12/13/2010 2:22:26 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Propane always higher in winter months. Fill up your tank in mid Summer.

It is somewhat tied to gasoline as I hear that when gasoline is high the refiner can add a bit of propane and replace the octane to be able to sell same octane gasoline at a lower cost (to the refinery).


12 posted on 12/13/2010 2:31:28 PM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Razzz42

Someone I know who dumpster dives in the metal bin at work found a 20 lb. ingot of copper that some dumbass chucked.


13 posted on 12/13/2010 3:15:22 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: ak267
I’m thinking of buying 1/10 oz coins (silver) and copper pennies.

Dimes are 72/1000 of an ounce. If you purchased a tenth ounce silver coin, the premium would likely be absurd.

"Copper" US pennies are 95% copper.

14 posted on 12/13/2010 4:31:28 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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