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Like it or Not: Mexico is America’s Next Afghanistan
Redstates ^ | 12/12/2010 | LaborUnionReport

Posted on 12/13/2010 5:04:49 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Like it or Not: Mexico is America’s Next Afghanistan

It's time to 'man up' and face a fact that most politicians know, but few care to admit. Posted by LaborUnionReport (Profile)

Sunday, December 12th at 9:00AM EST

With the exception of, perhaps, Texas governor Rick Perry, no public official wants to publicly admit an obvious fact: The United States of America will likely be forced to invade Mexico. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. The question then becomes: What to do with Mexico after we invade it and wipe out the drug cartels (as much as can be). Does the United States merely return Mexico to a nation state of corrupt politicians, failed economic policies, and lawlessness, or do we annex Mexico and turn it into the 51st state?

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TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events
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To: Jim Noble

Mexico is a sovereign country and will not be invaded by the United States. The Mexican government might ask for more assistance, as Colombia did, but that will be at Mexico’s invitation.


61 posted on 12/13/2010 7:15:44 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: corkoman

Mexico decriminalizes small-scale drug possession
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A763HO0


62 posted on 12/13/2010 7:17:24 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Wizdum

I believe the politicians are the one controlling the drug trade in America!


63 posted on 12/13/2010 7:18:32 AM PST by jrd
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

The best thing we could do for Mexico is to seal the border. The drug trade pays for lawlessness, the human trade lets the mexican government off the hook for their miserable failures in leading the country.


64 posted on 12/13/2010 7:22:38 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Don’t like the idea one bit. To me, O will use this opportunity to legalize 40 million illegals because they can’t go back to a “war” zone. Mexico’s problems are theirs lone with the exception of OUR open border. The idea of putting at risk ONE American soldier while thousands just pour over here is insanity. Just a thought.


65 posted on 12/13/2010 7:27:12 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Regulator
"Which will make it a target for its resources"

And if China invaded a wall would go up overnight.

I about dropped my beer when Krauthammer said we'd probably end up sending troops into Mexico. Reason being we a "no man's land" at the border was an unacceptable alternative.

66 posted on 12/13/2010 7:29:05 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Afghanistan (much like Mexico) won’t stop making drugs. They send theirs to China and we are the target of Mexico.

IMO, Mexico is a more pressing problem since we share a border.


67 posted on 12/13/2010 7:30:24 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Ge0ffrey
Mexico is a sovereign country

So what?

68 posted on 12/13/2010 7:31:56 AM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: moehoward

Let me guess. You were drinking Dos Equis.


69 posted on 12/13/2010 7:33:08 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey

Not at all..., but if they (the leftist) are admitting this (being as liberal as they are), then you know it’s true. This cannot help their argument at all. It’s just they can’t hide the obvious about the violence on the border.

Certainly this 28000 figure does not help the liberal/Socialist/Communist argument of open borders and ignoring illegal immigration.


70 posted on 12/13/2010 7:35:35 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Bean Counter
"Krauthammer talked about this on Friday on Special Report; and he thinks it is inevitable that the US will intervene in Mexico, probably as soon as next year. His point was that the US cannot allow the territory along our border to remain in the hands of the Cartels. If Mexico cannot police their side of the border, the US will."

I about fell over. A spectacularly BAD idea!

"As for making Mexico the 51st State, there are good reasons on both sides of that argument. As for Mexico turning into the next Afghanistan, that is a reach. Mexico and Afghanistan are not congruent; Afghanistan has nowhere near the infrastructure or the economy (other than poppy production) that Mexico has, and Mexico is a lot closer to home. And as easy as it sounds to merely annex Mexico and just start collecting income taxes from all of them, the Mexicans might have a lot to say about that."

And those taxes collect wouldn't come within a whiff of what that population would draw out in services.

"The Mexican drug cartels are in charge along the border, and that is the problem we should focus on. If the US Military were to go in and take out the cartels and allow the Mexican authorities to reclaim the territory along the border then there is no need for Nation Building or Statehood."

I can easily see this becoming another quagmire. There is not a chance in hell of the US sending in enough troops to mop this mess up quickly. We'd go in half hearted, treat everyone with kid gloves, stay long enough to screw up what little control the Mexicans still have, then leave with lots of vacuums needing to be filed by new or existing Cartels.

" The biggest obstacle in all of this continues to be the (P)resident in the Oval Office. He’s the least qualified guy in the room, and couldn’t lead a starving dog to a steaming sausage. If we do see any escalation along the border Premier Hussein will call for another summit, or Blue Ribbon Presidential Soviet to discuss the problems and propose solutions..."

Completely agree.

71 posted on 12/13/2010 7:42:03 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Sprite518

I take a different view. Leftists want to destroy the Mexican economy, and bring chaos to Mexico for the purpose of bringing a Chavez style government to Mexico. Then we really will have problems. I guaran-damn-tee you that if pro-Castro, pro-Chavez Obrador had won the last presidential election in Mexico over pro-business, pro-US Calderon, we would be reading endless stories about Mexican paradise from the mainstream media.

These terror stories regularly reach a peak at the beginning of tourist season in Mexico. Why do you think that is?


72 posted on 12/13/2010 7:44:43 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey

Alaskan Amber.


73 posted on 12/13/2010 7:48:43 AM PST by moehoward
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To: jrd
If we were to legalize drugs that problem would go away over night

Or, we could legalize ALL crimes and not have to bother paying law enforcement any more?

74 posted on 12/13/2010 8:09:13 AM PST by The Duke
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To: The Duke

did you ever hear of prohibition...America is about freedom


75 posted on 12/13/2010 8:19:04 AM PST by jrd
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To: Ge0ffrey

So are you saying that the problem on the border is being exaggerated? I don’t believe that is the case since it’s a main political issue in our country too. Nonetheless, it’s why I believe NAFTA has been a failure. IMHO all it does is enables Crony Capitalism. Think about the definition of Crony Capialism,

is a term describing an allegedly capitalist economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between businesspeople and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, and so forth.

Self-serving friendships and family ties between businessmen and the government influence the economy and society to the extent that it corrupts public-serving economic and political ideals.

I would say that statement above describes our country current situation. Furthermore, I believe these type of treaties are tools, or pieces to a future governing body. Right now it’s called the G20 and his very limited power. However, over time it has slowly and incrementally become more powerful. For instance, monetary policy. My biggest concern is that our Constitution/Bill of Rights will be trumped by some new body. Thus, effectively dissolving our sovereignty as a free republic.

You know the old cliche.... If you want to boil a frog, then you slowly turn up the heat. That’s the way I see it. i could be wrong.


76 posted on 12/13/2010 8:30:26 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Bean Counter
"...And as easy as it sounds to merely annex Mexico and just start collecting income taxes from all of them..."

Any attempt to tax Mexicans will result in a net loss.

Heck, the ones that surround me in my city certainly do not pay their fair share; why would they start now?

I have heard, anecdotaly, that fax-collection in Mexico is a bit of a farce. thus, it must be part of their culture, and we must respect their culture and thus continue propping them up with our taxes like we do currently.

Trivia: 10% of the working-age population of Mexico is currently in the US.

77 posted on 12/13/2010 8:52:00 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Wizdum
This is pretty interesting >>> The last American mounted tactical cavalry unit in combat was the 26th Cavalry (Philippine Scouts) in Philippines, stationed at Ft Stotsenburg, Luzon, 1942, which fought both mounted and dismounted against Japanese invasion troops in 1942. On the Bataan Peninsula, the 26th Cavalry (PS) staged a mounted attack against the Japanese on 16 January 1942. The battered, exhausted men of the 26th Cavalry climbed astride their horses and flung themselves moments against the blazing gun muzzles of Japanese tanks. This last mounted pistol charge was led by Ed Ramsey in command of G troop, 26th Cavalry. It was the last mounted charge in America's annals, and proved the climax of the 26th Cavalry's magnificent but doomed horseback campaign against the Imperial Japanese Army during the fall of the Philippines in 1941-42. According to a Bataan survivor interviewed in the Washington Post (10 April 1977), starving US and Philippine troops ate all the regiment's horses.
78 posted on 12/13/2010 10:13:19 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: jrd
did you ever hear of prohibition...America is about freedom

A little prohibition might have stopped my own father from destroying my own family when I was a child - an inter-generational disaster that dug I pit from which I am still climbing, and from which my own sons may some day (hopefully) emerge.

I guess in your mind it was a good thing that he had the "freedom" to neglect his family and children? On that you and I will never see eye-to-eye.

79 posted on 12/14/2010 5:00:52 AM PST by The Duke
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To: The Duke

just because one person can’t handle something is no reason to ban it for everyone...


80 posted on 12/14/2010 7:04:16 AM PST by jrd
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