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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
That said, while I'm 99.9 percent sure it was a missile, I am far less sanguine that I know whose missile it was. Myself, for a number of reasons, some of which I won't divulge here, think it was one of ours and one of several test launches that the cameraman finally caught. Another thing that folks who live way inland just don't get -- how distances appear on an ocean horizon. If a small boat is only four or so miles offshore, it's invisible to anyone on the beach because it is below the horizon. Thirty-five miles out at sea from the coastline is WAY below the horizon from a sea-level POV on the beach.

And the object creating the plume was heading AWAY from So Cal, not toward it. It's to be expected that it was barely noticed by So Cal's millions -- at least, if you're familiar with the area and the ocean. Folks who've never lived here nor lived oceanfront, have zero idea of the on-site realities.

ON THE OTHER HAND, other folks I know who are more knowledgeable than I am with regard to military defense, aviation, and missiles, think it wasn't one of ours. *sigh* None of them thinks it was an airliner and in fact, snort in amused contempt when they learn that there are people who've actually seen the video and still think (or claim) it was an eastbound airliner!!!

Having watched Vandenberg missile launches for many, many decades, however, I've come to be pretty impressed with our missileers and still think that what Leyvas caught on film was a test that probably bodes ill for our enemies. :^) But I am disgusted and dismayed at an "official" line so lame that it tries to pass it off as an eastbound UPS plane. It's an insult to people's intelligence.

387 posted on 12/15/2010 1:08:10 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny

So you think what Leyvas filmed was a missile launched about 35 miles off the coast of California?


388 posted on 12/15/2010 3:03:32 PM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: Finny; Arthur Wildfire! March; Dr. Brian Kopp; Rokke
"But I am disgusted and dismayed at an "official" line so lame that it tries to pass it off as an eastbound UPS plane."

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Post your link(s) to the article(s) where ANYONE in an "official" position claimed it was UPS 902.

And if you even dare suggest that I, TXnMA, am in any way in support of the US government -- (specifically the socialist regime of Øbozo the Usurper) -- I'll simply refer you to my ten-year posting history here on FR and recommend that you read the OKC report section mentioned in my FRProfile. Then ask the USGovt. how they liked it! LOL!!!

In fact, quote one singe pro-government statement I have made. On this thread, I have deliberately remaned technical. I have no (zero) political agenda on this subject.

OTOH, based on your postings on these threads championing that CBS video hoax as the ONLY evidence, should we be asking what CBS entity you work for?

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You are barking up the wrong stump, missy...

389 posted on 12/15/2010 3:06:56 PM PST by TXnMA (Hooptidoodle!!!)
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To: Finny; TigersEye

God bless you, Finny. Thank you for sharing your information/take/ and a little bit about you. Glad to have a chance to swap posts with you!

So, since the missile was 35 miles away [curved horizon chopping off the view of the actual launch], seeing the corkscrew at the bottom is not inconsistent with a missile? If the actual launch was in line of sight, there might not have been a corkscrew visible at the very bottom of a distant camera shot?


480 posted on 12/16/2010 7:23:57 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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