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Not made in the USA
NY Post ^ | December 12, 2010 | MAUREEN CALLAHAN

Posted on 12/12/2010 3:55:10 AM PST by Scanian

Edited on 12/12/2010 4:06:21 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Among the number of plant closings announced in the United States this week: A printing plant in Greenburg, Ind., costing 220 jobs; a tomato processing plant in Westover, Md., with 103 people fired; an office-supply facility in Mattoon, Ill., with 129 jobs lost.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: outsourcing; plantclosings; robots; underclass
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To: Esther Ruth

I agree with you except for this part...
“rid the world of average and low IQ folks”...
The unber wealthy do not want to rid the world of them;
it is in their best interest to create and maintain a permanent underclass
so they can be used as their slaves and for their entertainment.
(for some reason I just thought to compare it to
the relationship between the morlock and eloi)

This is in no way a new concept or economic model,
it has been that way for a couple of thousand years.
Pharaohs, Emporers, Kings, warlords, have always done this.
Our “democracy” was “supposed” to be different, and it is it most ways.
But there are and always have been the uber wealthy
who are isolated and protected from any real difficulties
and have the means to manipulate things behind the scenes.

That being said, it is neither all bad or all good.
Having wealth is not an inherently bad thing,
there are certainly “good” and “bad” wealthy people,
just as there are “good” and “bad” poor people.

Since the beginning of time the struggle has always
been a struggle between “good” and “evil”.
Not rich vs. poor; or white vs. black; or english vs. irish;
or north vs. south; or christian vs. muslim; or german vs. french;
but good vs. evil.

The class struggle we see nowadays being ginned up by the politicians and the media
pitting the “bad wealthy” people against the “good poor and middle class”
is not healthy and I believe it is a smokescreen.

Wasn’t it the ancient romans who longed for a benevolent dictator?


81 posted on 12/12/2010 7:25:35 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Uncle Ike

>>(And I include, cheif among these ‘impediments’, Crony Capitalism, whereby entrenched businesses have co-opted Government to stifle innovation and competition)

More preaching to the choir. Let’s throw in farm subsidies while we’re at it. They’re really a subset of the above, these days.

We have much to agree about!


82 posted on 12/12/2010 7:27:07 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: FreedomPoster

” We have much to agree about! “

Indeed we do, it would appear... ;)


83 posted on 12/12/2010 7:30:43 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: central_va
Horse$hit! The EPA and OSHA make Mfg anything here cost a hell of a lot more than 5% extra. There are a bunch of short-run jobs that can no longer be produced in USA because OSHA has made it impossible to meet their regulations. Not just difficult or expensive, freaking impossible!
84 posted on 12/12/2010 7:31:51 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

We were discussing steel. The fact is steel is 5% of the cost of a car. That is fact.


85 posted on 12/12/2010 7:35:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Will88

If anyone is interested in Import/Export/Trade Deficit totals, and the portion that is crude:

For 2009 Imports = 1,559,624.8 Exports = 1,056,043.0 Deficit = -503,581.9 (in millions)

Crude oil imports = 188,711,775 End-use code (10000)

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c0015.html#2010

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/product/enduse/imports/c0000.html

Page down to view other years. Some here have some very incorrect notions of our trade balances and the portion of imports that is crude oil. Generally around 10% to 15% of imports is crude.


86 posted on 12/12/2010 7:37:57 AM PST by Will88
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To: central_va

Is all that steel American made? I don’t think so.


87 posted on 12/12/2010 7:39:15 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: kindred

More of “Atlas Shrugged” happening here in America.


88 posted on 12/12/2010 7:41:19 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Read closer, they are DESIGNED in the USA, assembled in Mexico.


89 posted on 12/12/2010 7:57:22 AM PST by BigGaloot
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To: redgolum
There is no such thing as a “service” economy.

The "service" as it is applied today, is that which is supplied by a stud farm - and we ain't the stud.

90 posted on 12/12/2010 8:12:44 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Rational Thought
The “Globalist Ideology” of the United States becoming a service economy has failed.

This^^^^^^^^^^^

91 posted on 12/12/2010 8:52:53 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: Esther Ruth
They are drooling in anticipation and glee of there being a permanent underclass.

Bullcrap. The libs while they may be misguided in their ways do not want a underclass. No sane country or leader in the world wants a underclass.

Reading the rest of your post I'm double face palming.

92 posted on 12/12/2010 8:55:57 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: 1rudeboy
How much lower is our standard of living now, than it was in the 1950’s?

Record personal debt, vast majority of spouses who HAVE to work outside the home...

93 posted on 12/12/2010 8:57:50 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: Scanian

international math test scores of 15 yr olds

#1 China
#30 USA

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/12/07/education/07education_graph.html?ref=education


94 posted on 12/12/2010 9:06:05 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: FreedomPoster
With mechanization came the ability to farm greater acreage, and that economy of scale made some types of farming possible, as well as the equipment affordable. Small farms could not show enough profit to pay for the equipment, because profit is directly proportional to acreage for any given crop, all other things being equal.

It wasn't just farm hands, but displaced farmers and their families.

The biggest single obstacle to the creation of jobs in America is government regulation.

95 posted on 12/12/2010 9:07:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: libertarian27

They used to be 100% made in the US. Now, they’ve lowered the prices as a result of exporting most of the production, and the quality is lower too.

I’ve worn NB for years, and will unhappily continue to do so unless another good company comes around.


96 posted on 12/12/2010 9:12:41 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Gorzaloon
"Service Industries" were represented as..? A bell boy in a hotel, I guess, or a baggage handler at a railroad. station.

Yep. That employed middle class even hired maids.

When the whole 'service economy' thing started, I commented to a friend that 'we aren't going to get rich scrubbing each other's toilets'. You have to create wealth somewhere, and that takes extraction, refining, manufacturing, and innovation. It is the difference between making a car and changing the oil.

97 posted on 12/12/2010 9:13:35 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Will88
The biggest single obstacle to the creation of jobs in America is government regulation.

I disagree. Yes it is a problem..I agree. A woman was on Colbert whose company made marbles. I know this is a simple explanation but it accurately portrays the problem.

She said China can make AND SHIP to the US marbles for 21 cents per lb. Her electrical cost alone is 21 cents per lb.

What we have here is way beyond unions or gov't regulation but the problem is dealing with countries who cost of production is a 1/10 of ours.

We could get rid of most all gov't regulation and we could not compete with China or other low wage countries.

98 posted on 12/12/2010 9:14:08 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: hoyt-clagwell
Her electrical cost alone is 21 cents per lb.

How much of that electrical cost is from government regulation?From mining, gas extraction, emissions controls, safety requirements, to the EIS studies on powerline rights of way, it all adds up and comes out as 'electrical cost'.

Much of the price of regulation is wrapped up and hidden in some other cost, just as 'hidden' taxes are, and it all comes out in the cost to the consumer.

99 posted on 12/12/2010 9:36:59 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: hoyt-clagwell
Bullcrap. The libs while they may be misguided in their ways do not want a underclass. No sane country or leader in the world wants a underclass.

Put down the bottle and drink some coffee. The Socialist HAVE to HAVE a permanent underclass to survive. It's their secret sauce. The middle class is a threat to them.

100 posted on 12/12/2010 10:05:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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