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Wikileaks War: No More Secrets
The Constitution Club ^ | 12-11-10 | Dave the Sage

Posted on 12/11/2010 12:19:33 PM PST by TheConservativeCitizen

As the Wikileaks saga continues to unfold I can’t help but recall the scene in the film Sneakers where Martin “Marty” Bishop (Robert Redford) and Cosmo (Ben Kingsley) discuss the “code breaker.”

Cosmo: "There’s a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it’s not about who’s got the most bullets. It’s about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think… it’s all about the information!"

There is another scene in the movie where Marty utters the phrase “no more secrets.” And that is increasingly what we are approaching as the global pseudo-anarchist organization Wikileaks and its founder Julian Assange wage their own private war against the United States and its allies.

By their own deeds and actions this band of internet information warriors have taken it upon themselves to enact that creed of “no more secrets” and have set about deliberately undermining the US government as well as a large number of other organizations, corporations, and even individuals. When it comes to the United States of America, this is what happens when people begin to believe their own propaganda that those who dare to confront and militarily engage rogue regimes, mass murderers, and blood-splattered Islamic barbarians are somehow evil and worthy of defeat.

It is a twisted view of the world that defends genocidal regimes like that of the Husseins or the fundamentalist berserkers who seek to re-establish the caliphate and offer the infidel West three choices; submission, conversion, or death while viewing those who oppose such monsters as worthy of humiliation and defeat.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cablegate; espionage; julianassange; wikileaks

1 posted on 12/11/2010 12:19:42 PM PST by TheConservativeCitizen
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

““no more secrets.” And that is increasingly what we are approaching”

No, it isn’t. Every other country in the world has secrets. Only the US, which has many quasi-foreign agents in high political office, does not.


2 posted on 12/11/2010 12:23:03 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Leftys who zone in on Palin miss the point. America's not about single figures. That's for NK/Cuba.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Wikileaks War: No More Secrets

As long as Wikileaks's passwords aren't secret, either. . .

What? Don't like that? Secret for thee and not for me? Don't that's going to last. Wikileaks may not know it, but they are hastening a return to a familiar, and more primitive way of life: No privacy. A government can say, "It's true that I don't know your password. But I know you, and that's enough. I can just kill you. That will teach your survivors the value of discretion, now, won't it?"

3 posted on 12/11/2010 12:42:15 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
There is no mistake about it. This is a form of warfare. Some see this as a war for freedom of the press, but it is really a war of sabotage, espionage, compromise, and betrayal.

This is definitely a form of warfare, but this is not just against the United States and their allies. This is a bid for supremacy by these information warriors.

It just so happens that we(the West) are the easiest target because we are an open society.

If they were to somehow cripple us they would then turn their sights on the closed societies that have advanced technologies.

These are the Somali pirates all over again, except that these are high tech pirates. I don't see how we can defeat them. The best we can do is to higher our own pirates to battle them.

4 posted on 12/11/2010 1:42:14 PM PST by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Won’t somebody just leak the damn birth certificate?


5 posted on 12/11/2010 3:04:24 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Son of Wikileaks:

openleaks.org

Launches tomorrow. New concept, they won't publish anything by direct link. They will offer the leaks to news organizations only.

6 posted on 12/11/2010 3:52:15 PM PST by gandalftb (OK State, 10-2, Go Cowboys!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

It’s in Zeros basement, under the foundation, in a solid steel case, and only he knows the combination...lol


7 posted on 12/11/2010 4:39:55 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Traitors amongst us is what will do us in. Nothing has changed in 2000 years. Listen to Cicero's warning.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals... to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague." Marcus Tullius Cicero

8 posted on 12/11/2010 6:59:21 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Wikileaks saga ends...people move on. The Administration just plugging the bigger leaks in damage control was easier than trying to rebuild the whole dam. Dropping Julian into the laps of Scotland Yard is far easier than trying to CONTINUE to drum up rhetoric of trying him for treason being he was not a citizen of the US. Plus more public focus drawn to the silencing the media like Rush etc. The FCC standing in the shadows.

Plus, Hillary clearly said in an interview with the BBC in regard to Private Manning that he could only gotten into where he did with the help of the Department of Defense.

QUESTION: Did you ever think this could happen? Did you know your cables were read so widely and could be made public like that?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, Kim, unfortunately, this theft of this confidential information by the young private was done under the authority of the military, obviously the Defense Department, which had a legitimate reason for wanting more access to information. But it wasn’t handled appropriately. I think that is clear. I’ve called for a full investigation

Interview With Kim Ghattas of BBC December 3, 2010

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/12/152339.htm


9 posted on 12/11/2010 8:43:18 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Does anyone else find it disturbing that the USA is behaving worse than China in trying to squelch this Media outlet?


10 posted on 12/11/2010 10:15:26 PM PST by Tempest (Christian before conservative)
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To: Tempest

Yep.


11 posted on 12/11/2010 10:17:32 PM PST by sand lake bar
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To: Tempest

Apparently Fascism is the new black.


12 posted on 12/11/2010 10:17:46 PM PST by Tempest (Christian before conservative)
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To: sand lake bar
Thank God that there's a shred of intellectual consistency left around here for the pursuit of freedom and truth.
13 posted on 12/11/2010 10:20:37 PM PST by Tempest (Christian before conservative)
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To: oldbrowser
Here is what could be done, upsides and downsides have not been considered yet, but for starters:

All diplomatic and intelligence agencies in the United States and friendly nations who have been attacked by both these anti-American anarchist leakers, document stealers and hackers, must develop a three fold in number array of of bogus Wikileaks "mirror sites" identical down to the finest details, virtually indistinguishable from the real Wikileaks. Then put up bogus US cable after bogus US cable, purporting the oddest information out of the archives of State Department files, easily debunked. Once thousands upon thousands of these bogus diplomatic files are out there, expose them, prove them wrong, and accuse Wikileaks of making up information, assert that the information flow has been completely compromised and that any Wikileak-sponsored or Wikileak-like sponsored US diplomatic cable is at risk of being forged, therefore all cables must be suspect. Draw the comparison to Wikipedia where the information may NOT be correct, because anyone can edit. Just flood the cyber market with said disinformation. It won't do to take down Wikileak's mirror sites now carried in the hundreds, and even by the Government of Bolivia (political enemy of the USA via President Evo Morales), so one just must sew chaos, confusion, instability, doubt and lack of veracity on the whole process. This of course will take hundreds of specialists in black ops and forgeries, giving up their Christmas holidays, but flood the international public mindset with all kinds of baseless Wikileaks counterfeits, and you will compromise the legitimacy of their entire movement and modus apparandi. You could have a cable for example have a foreign diplomatic post say they are readying for an April 2006 visit by Vice President Cheney, but then in reality it will be shown that during those dates, Cheney had no oveseas travel planned and was elsewhere at the same time as the forged cable talking about his visit to a US outpost. Then call in the chips and let the whole system implode on itself through lack of integrity.

14 posted on 12/11/2010 11:42:07 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**George W Bush** bears as much responsibility as CARTER, CLINTON and OBAMA over N. Korean nukes)
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To: gandalftb
New concept, they won't publish anything by direct link. They will offer the leaks to news organizations only.

Nothing to go wrong there.

: )

15 posted on 12/12/2010 7:49:05 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Plus, Hillary clearly said in an interview with the BBC in regard to Private Manning that he could only gotten into where he did with the help of the Department of Defense.

That's odd. These are STATE DEPARTMENT CABLES, and Hillary is SECRETARY OF STATE.

16 posted on 12/12/2010 7:50:53 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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