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To: Red Steel; rxsid; Spaulding; patlin

The Franklin letter to Dumas thanking him for the copies of Vattel’s Law of Nations stating it was being put to good use by the “Congress now sitting” was signed by Franklin, John Dickinson and John Jay.

B. Franklin.

Mons. Dumas.

Philadelphia Dec. 12. 1775.

We the underwritten, appointed by the american congress a committee of foreign correspondence having perused the above Letter, Written at our Request, do approve and confirm the same.

(Signed) John Dickinson
John Jay

http://www.franklinpapers.org/franklin/framedVolumes.jsp


213 posted on 12/06/2010 12:23:57 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Red Steel; rxsid; Spaulding; patlin

The bottom of the page pls type Vattel in the search box provided. Vattel 1-9, the Dumas letter will appear.

http://www.franklinpapers.org/franklin/framedVolumes.jsp


214 posted on 12/06/2010 12:32:54 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Bushpilot1, did you mean to put this excellent reference in this thread?

You, Patlin and rsxid (and many less frequent contributors) continue filling in details of the time of our independence. That context may well prove useful as economic forces distract from the Progressive’s many little battles to demean serious questioners of Obama’s legitimacy. The more those who were successfully deterred in pursuing the relatively obscure truth learn of the meaning of citizenship used by our framers the easier it will be to for the public when the door is opened by some event. It is clear that that our Supreme Court and Military have joined legislators in surpressing the Constitution they have all sworn to defend and protect. But we pay them all, and we still have enough integrity of the voting mechanisms in enough states to replace those legislators - all of them.

Cmdr Kerchner and Mario Apuzzo educated many, and as well exposed the weakness, even the impotence of the Supreme Court in addressing Constitutional issues. Everything is politics now. The more people learn about our real history the easier it will be to ressurect the Constitution.

If you haven't linked your references to rsxid’s thread on natural born citizenship, I would encourage it. I'll look later and put in the link, because that thread compares favorably with Mario Apuzzo’s site for relevant content, and your Franklin reference is just another important confirmation of what we have learned through our own pursuit of the truth. The whole set of Franklin document is fascinating.

You have probably already seen the letter from Hamilton to Washington in 1790, when Hamilton was Treasury Secretary, in which Hamilton, discussed the various legal authorities he used to make decisions. Hamilton notes that Pufendorf says this and Grotius that, but ends with “But Vatel, perhaps the most accurate and approved of the writers on the laws of nations, preserves a mean between these different opinions.” This letter is noteworthy because Hamilton is using Washington's acceptance of Vattel to support his own position. He knows Washington agrees with him about Vattel. http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1381&chapter=64375&layout=html&Itemid=27

218 posted on 12/06/2010 8:42:09 PM PST by Spaulding
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