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To: bushpilot1
Bushpilot1, did you mean to put this excellent reference in this thread?

You, Patlin and rsxid (and many less frequent contributors) continue filling in details of the time of our independence. That context may well prove useful as economic forces distract from the Progressive’s many little battles to demean serious questioners of Obama’s legitimacy. The more those who were successfully deterred in pursuing the relatively obscure truth learn of the meaning of citizenship used by our framers the easier it will be to for the public when the door is opened by some event. It is clear that that our Supreme Court and Military have joined legislators in surpressing the Constitution they have all sworn to defend and protect. But we pay them all, and we still have enough integrity of the voting mechanisms in enough states to replace those legislators - all of them.

Cmdr Kerchner and Mario Apuzzo educated many, and as well exposed the weakness, even the impotence of the Supreme Court in addressing Constitutional issues. Everything is politics now. The more people learn about our real history the easier it will be to ressurect the Constitution.

If you haven't linked your references to rsxid’s thread on natural born citizenship, I would encourage it. I'll look later and put in the link, because that thread compares favorably with Mario Apuzzo’s site for relevant content, and your Franklin reference is just another important confirmation of what we have learned through our own pursuit of the truth. The whole set of Franklin document is fascinating.

You have probably already seen the letter from Hamilton to Washington in 1790, when Hamilton was Treasury Secretary, in which Hamilton, discussed the various legal authorities he used to make decisions. Hamilton notes that Pufendorf says this and Grotius that, but ends with “But Vatel, perhaps the most accurate and approved of the writers on the laws of nations, preserves a mean between these different opinions.” This letter is noteworthy because Hamilton is using Washington's acceptance of Vattel to support his own position. He knows Washington agrees with him about Vattel. http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1381&chapter=64375&layout=html&Itemid=27

218 posted on 12/06/2010 8:42:09 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding; rxsid
wanted to be sure we did not have the complete letter..with the additional signatures..we have the..excerpt of Franklins text..but did not think we had the additional signers..

Have located Vattels family medallion will post it later

219 posted on 12/06/2010 8:58:34 PM PST by bushpilot1
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