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Air force investigating flyover at football game
Kfor.com ^ | 12/4/2010 | Kfor.com

Posted on 12/04/2010 5:52:22 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Four pilots at Vance Air Force Base in Enid are under investigation to determine if they flew too low over Kennick Stadium in Iowa before the Hawkeyes played Ohio State back in November.

"The gentlemen involved are instructor pilots and part of this was a training mission," said 1st Lt. Katherine Roling.

Although the fly over was authorized, pilots with the Air Force are required to fly at least 1,000 feet above congested areas such as a sports stadium.

Nearly two weeks after the flyover, the Air Force is still trying to determine exactly how low the pilots flew.

Since the game, several cell phone videos of the flyover have been posted on the internet and debated.

"Those guys are good and they know what they are doing or they wouldn't be doing what they are doing," said Pilot Lonnie Gillespie who flew in the Korean and Vietnam Wars

(Excerpt) Read more at kfor.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: aerospace; collegefootball; flyover; football; hawkeyes; iowa; kennickstadium; ohiostate; probe; t38; usaf; vanceafb
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To: OldDeckHand
I didn’t realize that the Air Force still had T-38s in their inventory. I knew NASA still used them as chase planes, but I thought that was it.

The performance profile of the T-38 is very close to both the F-16 and the F-18: Both of which are still the most demanded MRFs in the world.

41 posted on 12/04/2010 6:52:36 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
I've conducted my own investigation and my finding is.....

.....way effin' cool!

42 posted on 12/04/2010 6:53:37 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Four aircraft, 250 feet AGL each. Adds up to a thousand in my book. Someone needs to get a life.


43 posted on 12/04/2010 6:55:44 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
Wow right at 1,000 feet with those ginormous fighters that look so big that far away.
44 posted on 12/04/2010 6:59:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

My feeling is that if they weren’t breaking glass, causing pregnant women to give birth prematurely and cleaning leaves and branches off the planes after they land, it is a egregious waste of taxpayer money because THEY WEREN’T LOW ENOUGH!

But hey...that’s just me...


45 posted on 12/04/2010 7:01:18 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Bunch of wimps.

You want a flyover call the US NAVY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLPC-4Mj3N8&feature=related


46 posted on 12/04/2010 7:03:24 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: 50mm
Here's a press box perspective of the flyover---looks like they were at about 500 feet and booking it.

Kinnick fly over

47 posted on 12/04/2010 7:06:33 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SkyPilot

You can get a waiver from the FAA to do airshows as low as zero or on the deck.


48 posted on 12/04/2010 7:07:57 PM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Iowa City is at 668 feet elevation, so they were easily 332 feet above that.

Or did you mean AGL?


49 posted on 12/04/2010 7:10:33 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

It’s easy enough to do if you have the algebraic skills (I don’t). All that is necessary is one shot where the aircraft and an element of the background, such as a stadium scoreboard are in the same frame. Since the dimensions of both are fixed, the distance between them can be calculated.

The reason I know that is because when I was in the Navy at Yokosuka, we used to have a problem with TV news helicopters buzzing the ships and subs arriving to get good shots — sometimes flying directly over them — and generally acting like idiots.

But if we could get a single shot of the helo and any part of the ship (radar mast or periscope) some ensign or jg with coke bottle glasses would peer in a couple books, spend a few minutes scribbling arcane formula on legal pad and then tell us exactly how far away the helo was when the shot was taken.

Always amazed me...


50 posted on 12/04/2010 7:11:18 PM PST by Ronin ("Dismantle the TSA and send the screeners back to Wal-Mart.")
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To: Ronin

Damn! I wish I could have been there!

hooowa! Ditto that

Remember ‘W’ buzzing the Navy - Army game a few years ago
2cool!

Blue Angels over the Severn too

great recruiting tool and good practice as well


51 posted on 12/04/2010 7:17:55 PM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Michigan Bowhunter

ROTF...what a bunch of pansies, and what a waste of taxpayer money. Did someone pee their pants? LOL! If one of them had flown thru the goalposts, you might have a case, but this..? Puh-leeze.


52 posted on 12/04/2010 7:19:43 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: darkwing104

Should have pinged you to this thread and the video I posted.


53 posted on 12/04/2010 7:21:14 PM PST by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
This is flying low;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Yso73uIG4&playnext=1&list=PL58216F352F3B51C6&index=5

54 posted on 12/04/2010 7:25:02 PM PST by fso301
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To: 50mm

Haha, that was wicked! Thanks for the link.


55 posted on 12/04/2010 7:32:47 PM PST by andyk (Hi, my name's Andy, and I was a BF 1942 / Desert Combat junkie.)
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To: IrishCatholic

I was at Illinois in the early 80s when the local pizza parlor would fly their tomato-shaped balloon as low as they could over the field. It was not unusual for the gondola to be below the top row of seats as they flew the length of the field.

One game, they were just crossing the end zone as the Illini scored a touchdown. The Air Force ROTC was in charge of setting off fireworks when the home team scored. As the fireworks began to explode around the balloon, the flying tomato brothers kicked in the burner and gained altitude as quick as they could.

That was a little too close to the scoreboard.


56 posted on 12/04/2010 7:53:27 PM PST by Qout
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To: Bud Krieger

Watched the YouTube video...that’s about the altitude of the flyovers at the old Sears Point Raceway (I refuse to call it “Infineon”).

For many years, my son and I watched the Blue Angels perform at the San Francisco Fleet Week show on the Marina Green. That seemed to be the altitude that they flew over the crowds. Now that was really magnificent — no trainers there.


57 posted on 12/04/2010 7:56:24 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Inyo-Mono; All
You want low at an air show? THIS is low! Of course, this wasn't over the crowd, but just offshore from us.
58 posted on 12/04/2010 8:01:06 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld; All
The 10 Greatest Low Pass Flybys of All Time
59 posted on 12/04/2010 8:05:59 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: rlmorel
LOL!

Over the summer, I watched an episode of "Dogfights" on the History Channel which told the story of F-86 pilot Robbie Risner and his dogfight with a Russian "honcho" flying a MiG-15.

Much of the dogfight took place in a dry riverbed, and after shooting down the Russian and returning to base, Risner had to sheepishly explain to his crew chief how he got so much mud on the bottom of his F-86, as well as the dents in its fuselage from the rocks and dirt thrown up from the ground.

Here's the story, which climaxes at at the 7:00 minute mark.

Dogfights: MIG Alley Part 2

60 posted on 12/04/2010 8:13:01 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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