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Most shells failed to hit their target in the North (Korea)
joongang daily ^ | December 03, 2010

Posted on 12/02/2010 9:09:56 AM PST by maquiladora

Since the North’s attack on Yeonpyeong Island, one question has emerged repeatedly in the aftermath: What did the South’s response fire do to North Korea?

For the first two days, the South Korean government and military said they were “collecting intelligence” and blamed cloudy weather for the delay in verifying how much damage had been done to the North Korean side.

As the furor from the public and lawmakers grew with the discovery of two civilian deaths in addition to the two marines, military officials started making firm assertions that the North’s western coast, at which South Korean troops on the island had fired retaliatory rounds, was “probably reduced to ashes.”

The Ministry of National Defense stated in an official briefing the day after the attack that there was “probably considerable damage” in the North.

But just over a week after the Yeonpyeong Island incident, satellite imagery of the area where South Korea fired upon is showing that the assertions aren’t necessarily true.

The Grand National Party’s floor leader, Kim Moo-sung, said at the National Assembly yesterday that after checking satellite images, 35 of the 80 rounds that South Korea fired had landed in the sea.

The images from the global intelligence company Stratfor also showed that many of the rounds that had managed to make it onto North Korean land had fallen into rice paddies and other farming land near a North Korean military base.

Kwon Young-se, head of the Intelligence Committee in the National Assembly, told reporters yesterday that roughly 10 rounds had hit the North Korean military base.

One of the satellite images that Kwon received from the National Intelligence Service was taken by a domestically made satellite, the Arirang-1.

“Around 10 of our rounds fell onto North Korean military territory and one of those rounds can be seen in the photo to have struck directly on one end of the barracks. We can think that many casualties may have been created from this,” said Kwon.

However, lawmakers from ruling and opposition parties alike have been questioning the basic capability of the South Korean military due to the numerous misfires.

Some expect the revelations will impact impending export projects for the South Korean-made K9 howitzer, which the South Korean military has touted since the Yeonpyeong Island attack for its excellence in aim and destruction. The K9 howitzer has been said to have a destruction range of 50 meters (164 feet) in radius.

Others have pointed out that South Korean troops on the island may have had their aim hindered because the attack was sudden, resulting in a low level of destruction.

The Ministry of National Defense refused to confirm how many rounds had struck enemy territory. The ministry added that the exact damage done to the North Korean military could not be disclosed because of “complex reasons.”

Floor leader Kim called upon the National Intelligence Service director yesterday to conduct a thorough investigation into the truth. “People have a right to know the current status of our military,” said Kim. “I hope this incident is an opportunity for our military to turn this misfortune to its advantage.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: norhkorea; southkorea
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1 posted on 12/02/2010 9:09:59 AM PST by maquiladora
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Poor gun control is to blame here. MORE GUN CONTROL!


2 posted on 12/02/2010 9:11:58 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: maquiladora

Come on guys, you can shoot better than that.


3 posted on 12/02/2010 9:12:28 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: maquiladora

It was practice.


4 posted on 12/02/2010 9:14:47 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: maquiladora

If the lob 100,000 rounds onto Seoul, precision won’t be a really huge issue.


5 posted on 12/02/2010 9:15:23 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: maquiladora

“Sheot, man - ah hit perxakly where ah wuz aimin’ at...”


6 posted on 12/02/2010 9:15:30 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: maquiladora
Others have pointed out that South Korean troops on the island may have had their aim hindered because the attack was sudden, resulting in a low level of destruction.

Like they hadn't had years to prepare.

7 posted on 12/02/2010 9:15:32 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Larry Lucido

*they


8 posted on 12/02/2010 9:15:40 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: maquiladora
Perhaps, you should start acting like your life depends on this. Perhaps it does.

Good thing the US is around to come bail you out.

9 posted on 12/02/2010 9:15:50 AM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: maquiladora
Not good. Keeping Seoul from being destroyed in the first hours of a NORK attack depend upon precision counter-battery fire.
10 posted on 12/02/2010 9:16:04 AM PST by AU72
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To: maquiladora

Missing your targets is no way to go through life, son

11 posted on 12/02/2010 9:16:29 AM PST by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: maquiladora

Damn, I replied before I realized the article was about SK’s return fire.


12 posted on 12/02/2010 9:17:30 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: maquiladora

Maybe they were aiming at the broadside of that barn in the bottom-left of the picture?


13 posted on 12/02/2010 9:18:05 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: maquiladora

They’ve had 57 years to prep for this. This lack of readiness is insane. At this rate, the North will corner the South at the bottom of the peninsula again, just like 60 years ago.


14 posted on 12/02/2010 9:18:54 AM PST by lurk
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To: maquiladora

For people unclear on the concepts of CEP and lethal radius, I suppose.


15 posted on 12/02/2010 9:20:26 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: maquiladora

Dragging the guns out of the motor park, under fire and in a hurry. Maybe lacking survey for the firing positions, lacking a current MET + VE. Lack of observers to adjust fire. Lack of radar or maybe not set up or for friendly-mode. That all adds up to low probablility for hits within the effective radius of the rounds (although ICM helps!).

A lot of it has to do with lack of combat readiness I think. Not that the troops weren’t trained, or that the guns weren’t capable (although those things are also possible), but just a general lack of maintaining an operational posture is all the explanation needed.


16 posted on 12/02/2010 9:21:08 AM PST by SargeK
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To: bgill
Doesn't matter how much you've practiced, the real thing is what gives you the best education. I would imagine the troops are learning how to adjust their sights (or, that modern thing "fire control system").

Interesting that they hit uniformly just short of the barracks ~ think maybe somebody had a relative in there?

17 posted on 12/02/2010 9:23:10 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: lurk

Agreed. As part of their training, you would think proper use of weaponry would have been somewhat high on the list.

This is disgraceful, and could be a disaster for SK if they don’t learn (quickly) from it.


18 posted on 12/02/2010 9:23:26 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: maquiladora

Maybe they missed on purpose so as not to anger the north into a “real attack” response. Then again, perhaps the south’s military is just inept, as they were in 1950.


19 posted on 12/02/2010 9:23:58 AM PST by Cisco Nix
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To: rarestia

Any rounds that landed on rice paddies did catistrophic damage to the North Korean economy.


20 posted on 12/02/2010 9:23:58 AM PST by Redleg Duke (We didn't limit out, but we nailed a bunch of RATS!)
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