Posted on 12/01/2010 4:33:12 PM PST by Cecily
There are jobs huh Johnny?
Come here to Calif and try finding a toolmaker/machinist/fabricator job which is my trade of 30+ years. The day I was laid off ALL of the 35 machinists at my division were let go also. These were very good paying jobs with good benefits. There are NO jobs here now that even come close to what I was making let alone any machinist jobs for someone with my qualifications. That’s just the way it is, they’re gone and I know this for a fact after searching hard and long. Nope, I can’t afford to move. No way!
By the way, I’ve never had a problem finding a job in my entire life until now. I have amazing, extensive technical job skills and nowhere to take them.
Luckily for me, I was able to fall back on my sideline to make a little money as a musician. But if not for that I would be SOL! Because there just isn’t enough jobs anymore and no one wants to hire an over 50 like me and teach him a new trade. they want youngsters who don’t mind working for peanuts.
Oh, and thanks alot for all your support for people like me.
This was for the boilers. Eight of them at 1200 PSI super heated steam. A leak the size of a #2 pencil lead can decapitate you. You can’t hear the leak But if you go into such a boiler room and it is quiet but you can’t hear yourself speak either Get out the same way you came in and fast a major steam break has occurred. The noises are above human hearing range but over come all other sounds.
Then a nice nap, and breakfast of eggs and flapjacks?
I'm glad that this isn't something that 'can' happen. The good news is that battleships are built to withstand tremendous stresses - they have to be. They get shot at - for a living.
Cruise ships, for the most part are little more than really elaborate cargo vessels. They are built as light and as economical as possible.
Involuntarily unemployed is an oxymoron. People are only unemployed if they want to be. If people want to be employed they get a job. Freepers understand this. Moveons want to blame someone else.
I personally know several people that can't get hired at tiny fractions of their former salary. Too experienced/educated, too close to retirement(mid 50's lol) or former pay scale too high.
Basically their history/resume is killing them, and you can't just omit things these days. That's a sin for job seekers, guaranteed to blow your chance.
There are plenty of folks that haven't been touched by this job killing situation in America, created over the last 20 years, that find it very easy to cast insults and assumptions at those in the meat grinder. Pray that luck always follows you in your career.
Thanks, ... I’ll accept your post as fact.
The cruise ships I have been on (as a paying guest) have all had a plaque stating they were made to the Lloyds specifications (Carnival and NCL).
I’m glad that there is are thoughts put into this. I expected a hard connect from the chain to the ship - so when the end of the chain hit - depending upon the location of the anchor the ship would skid to stop (if in the rear) or would cantalever about the focal point (for mid-ship to front) and thereby cause unplanned for stresses in the hull.
I’m just an engineer (Electrical and Mechanical) and am NOT familiar with how a ship is designed; I simply see the forces at work and imagine the worst possible scenario. Murphy usually gives us an optimistic place to start.
They had to have lost the anchor without “dredging”. The thought of that chain whipping around while circling the Hawespipe is a deck Dept. members worst nightmare.
Exactly! See my post 121 for a prime example.
The Cruise Ship owner should have made it impossible for an unauthorized or incapacitated person to drop anchor, or otherwise endanger the operation of the ship - in particular if they offered/supplied alcohol to their passengers to the extent of making them mindless. That is the only effective solution to such or like situation.
One could torture and dismember a perpetrator having been drunk while committing the act, and not have an iota of effect on prevention of such acts (except by the particular individual).
I wonder about you guys that fantasize about being raped by men.
Whoooaaa..thats a good one. I had to look that one up....well played...(golf clap)
The Captain was on the pier..the ship was in the bay..the anchor..in the junk.below the surface.
CO asked for assistance. I said the French navy has divers..I can contact the liaison officer..he said..no thats not good.
Another way was a salvage outfit of Djiboutian divers. He said ok but this needs to be kept quiet.
He said the admiral is waiting..could we hurry.
Told him they would pay with a fund cite via a message to me. I can get the cash from the Embassy and pay the salvage company. Payment within 3 days. He agreed. The salvage company told me the cost and I passed it to the supply officer. He agreed.
The divers recovered the anchor that afternoon. The ship departed. After 3 days no message from the Brewton.
Sent a routine message to the Brewton requesting payment. Five more days and no response. Sent another message to the ship with a 3 day suspense.
No reply after the suspense date.
I prepared a message to USS Brewton copy furnished to SECDEF, Chief Naval Ops, SECSTATE, CENTCOM, the admiral in Bahrain..the admiral in Naples and all the ships addresses I could find in my message files.
USS Brewton third request for fund cite in the amount $600 for recovery anchor lost in in Djibouti.
Received a message with fund cite within a few hours.
When a ship drops anchor, the chain is usually “arrested” on the windlass and a “cat’s paw” and the windlass brake are the holding or pivot point. Most ships do not drop anchor and pay out all the chain. The rule of thumb for anchoring is to use 6-8 times the depth of the water for the amount of chain that is paid out.
I don’t know what the depth of the water was when the anchor was let go by that idiot, but there is a good chance the anchor never hit the bottom before the weak link let go.
Thanks so much for telling us “the rest of the story”.
Sounds like the CO wanted to keep the whole thing quiet, and that by ignoring you, you would eventually go away.
He probably soiled his whites when he saw the cc’s on your last cable to the ship.
What he wanted quiet wound up announced to the world.
Bills must be paid!
I beg to differ.
Consider the wonderful world in the Middle East. In some countries, if you are caught driving drunk - the cop executes you on the spot (depending upon who you are, of course).
You don’t hear of a lot of drunken behavior in these Muslim countries, do you?
Are you projecting?
My statement is fairly simple to understand. “I didn’t know that robbing a person was wrong”, or “I thought I was allowed to embezzel and bankrupt my boss’s company”. Funny, some forced gay prison sex seems to be a cure-all. I’ll be that person knows the difference between ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ now.
Does being locked in a place, where there is nothing to do but read, exercise, rest and watch TV really sound all that ‘bad’? For us law-abiding citizens, that lifestyle is found on our vacations. Prison time should be very unpleasant - and when the animals that inhabit that world chose to form their world in their image - it is, and should be a living hell.
The rules of society are pretty simple, in fact the rules are astoundingly simple. Most people have mastered these concepts by Kindergarten - unfortunately, there are a lot of animals that desire to prey upon the humans. These animals look just like a human - but they eagerly do things that a human would have to be forced to do.
I think you’re going a little overboard ; )
At 20kts even if there wasn’t a windlass brake and the anchor reached the bottom there’s no way the anchor would have set! Fluke style anchors ‘fly’ underwater at even minimal speed. What would have happend is once it reached the end of the rode it would have flown up under the vessel, likely encountering the screws. That would have been bad and expensive. But no sudden deceleration and no injuries. The other drunks would be fine.
The question, really, is what price to pay. Force gay sex? Seriously now.
Yeah, I kinda liked it, too. Thanks for lending me an “n”; my typefont was low on ‘em.
I guess my view is that I have zero tolerance for people who mess with public transportation equipment.
I don’t care if they are messing with a train, plane, bus, subway or train. By messing around with equipment that they neither are qualified to operate, trained to operate or allowed to operate - they are willfully damaging a device that may be necessary to the safe operation of that vessel.
Tossing them in jail for 20 years, and taking $250K is a sentence I would certainly entertain - for any of the above. I don’t care if they are drunk - being drunk is never an excuse for anything ..... ever.
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