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Lilith: the barren, sex-crazed, child-killing mascot of the abortion movement
LifeSite News ^ | 11/29/2010 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 12/01/2010 8:25:32 AM PST by markomalley

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To: GraceG
Luke 18
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
141 posted on 12/01/2010 2:11:54 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: stuartcr

So, you are the ultimate standard of truth.
You’ve finally arrived there.

I “grasp the notion” that you reject the bible as the ultimate standard in favor of your own understanding as the ultimate standard.
I “accept” that. I’m telling you, though, that if it is based on nothing, it is irrational, which is where this all started. Now, if you agree that your belief system is irrational, then I won’t tell you you’re not thinking clearly (or are “wrong” as you put it).

If we each have our own definition of ultimate standard of truth, that means that it isn’t the ultimate standard. The Ultimate Standard exists, and it’s not defined by you or I, it objectively IS. That’s axiomatic with the existance of God.

Objectively, if two standards are in conflict, one or both is wrong. To state otherwise is irrational.

Now, as for the divine inspiration of the Word, far more has been written on that than what I can explain here, but:

In summary, specific prophecies were written in a verifiable time frame, with copies being disseminated to locations which would make “after the fact” editing impossible.
These specific prophesies were fulfilled and recorded by eyewitnesses within the lifetime of other eyewitnesses who could have refuted the claims of these prophecy fulfilments.

If you want a good, short, phd researched explanation in video format, search for “Voddie Baucham why I believe the bible”.


142 posted on 12/01/2010 2:19:45 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: markomalley

If modern “liberated” moms still took time to stop and sing a “lullaby” to their babies, they might be shocked to learn the name for this harmless little rime possibly stems from a contraction of “Lillith abi” or (you guessed it) “Lillith begone.”


143 posted on 12/01/2010 2:26:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Secret Agent Man

To keep from going bonkers thinking about it, I guess I’ll just quit or my head will explode...:O)


144 posted on 12/01/2010 2:36:34 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Mr. Silverback

Medically, for a man to pass a kidney stone is a little worse that childbirth...That stone has to go a longer way than if a woman passes a stone....Ihave seen grown men cry and I have nothing but compassion for them...I would be the one giving them the narcotics....its amazing that something as small as a grain of sand can cause such pain....


145 posted on 12/01/2010 2:41:00 PM PST by goat granny
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To: stuartcr
If someone said this...
I don’t reject the United States Constitution, I just don’t believe some of what’s in it.

How would you describe their attitude toward the Constitution and the government it describes?

146 posted on 12/01/2010 2:49:15 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Raycpa
Did Jesus sin when he fed the 5000, did the 5000 sin by eating? Did God sin when he provided Manna to the Hebrews, did the Hebrews sin by eating it?

In addition to the logical contradiction you point out, her theory contradicts what is explicitly speeld out in Genesis 1-3. To say He sent them away for their own good so they could "grow up" is to make God out as a liar.

147 posted on 12/01/2010 2:54:40 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: goat granny

True. If it ever happens to me, I hope they knock me out. I’ll take pain for a good purpose, but that ain’t a good purpose!


148 posted on 12/01/2010 2:58:11 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: exit82

That is the kind of nonsense that pervades “modern” Christianity. It’s part and parcel with the rationalization that everything is OK to do as long as it makes you feel good, regardless of what may be written to the contrary.


149 posted on 12/01/2010 3:34:48 PM PST by ronnyquest (Barack H. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: hosepipe
"To be democrat is to be a women or at least feminized.. "

Or a eunuch.

150 posted on 12/01/2010 3:56:08 PM PST by ronnyquest (Barack H. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: markomalley

btt


151 posted on 12/01/2010 4:53:15 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: stuartcr

All things are possible with God. Not all non-things.


152 posted on 12/01/2010 4:53:57 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: Mr. Silverback; stuartcr

That’s right.

The old argument about why can’t God make a rock so big even he can’t lift it is an argument which defeats itself. Like the square circle, etc.

Leftist materialists have always defeated themselves with their own arguments. David Hume comes to mind.

Yes, it means leftists are only about 55% as intelligent as they think they are.


153 posted on 12/01/2010 5:00:03 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: GraceG

I think you’re reading something other than the Bible.


154 posted on 12/01/2010 5:07:16 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Now we've moved from adding stuff to God's word to adding stuff to Silverback's word...

And they didn't even add a car chase scene.

155 posted on 12/01/2010 5:49:11 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: exit82; GraceG
"None of that is true, and the view you posted completely negates the need for Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross."

Whether it is a correct understanding of the situation is not so much the matter. However it was - and it does seem reasonable - it does NOT negate the desire of Yahuweh to present again His physical self - Yahushua ([the term 'Jesus' appears nowhere in the Apostolic scriptures]) to us in 1BC-33AD for the purpose of providing the Way back to observing and embodying His Covenant as established with Abraham and recorded in the Torah.

'Jesus' is a 16th century term created by the errant German printers/Catholic monk translators of the Tanach and Apostolic Scriptures.

That most "Christian" groups ([again an incorrect translation from the Apostolic Scriptures AND Roman writings of the time, should read "Chrestaunous", the 2 terms do NOT have the same meaning]) gets this matter wrong is the core of the present problem within the "Ekklesia".

That the various "Ekklesia" do not use His correct name is also why Satan has such an easy effort to corrupt and mislead the "Yahudym" [in Hebrew it means members of Yah's family] of today.

That Adam and Chawuh (another intentional errant translation from the original text as Eve is the name of a pagan sun goddess) were driven out of Eden is because they took it upon their self to decide what was the correct set of instructions to follow.

At that point in our history The Covenant was not explicitly defined - as the relationship a parent has with the young child is not spelled out to the child but the child is instructed to do or do not certain behaviors.

156 posted on 12/01/2010 6:16:58 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: SonsOfCollins_Wallace
it does NOT negate the desire of Yahuweh to present again His physical self - Yahushua ([the term 'Jesus' appears nowhere in the Apostolic scriptures]) to us in 1BC-33AD for the purpose of providing the Way back to observing and embodying His Covenant as established with Abraham and recorded in the Torah.

Guess "Jesus" was wrong about "the New Covenant".

157 posted on 12/01/2010 6:28:02 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: reasonisfaith; Sergio
“Either the Bible is what it has been understood to be for nearly 2000 years, or it’s merely a work of literature that we can interpret to no end. It can’t be both.”

Actually, “the Bible” is a construct of the Catholic Church and its’ Protestant variations follow along.
The current editions are as errant as it is possible to be and still resemble the Tanach and Apostolic Scriptures.
This understanding is a historical fact with much arguments abounding and is well known in the most if not all various sect's seminaries .

See my other post on this thread for more info about said “errantness” of the Bible.

158 posted on 12/01/2010 6:30:22 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: exit82

“Guess “Jesus” was wrong about “the New Covenant”.”

No “Jesus” was not wrong as “Jesus” never said anything to anyone since he was never around.
Yahshua however said much as He is Yahuweh in the flesh.
And the term He used is “Renewed Covenant” which makes perfect sense as He was re-establishing the connection to the Covenant from Abraham’s time.


159 posted on 12/01/2010 7:22:18 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: SonsOfCollins_Wallace

No, Jesus did not renew anything.

He said it was “new”, not just “renewed”.

The need for an animal sacrifice was no longer required—the sacrifice of Jesus was enough.

And Jesus had many names and titles in both the Old and the New Testament, so let’s not play word games on which one is “correct”.


160 posted on 12/01/2010 7:40:37 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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